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I need a job!

anyone got any work going? I need a job with money involved! I would love to work as an animator full time but it looks like i may have to get a part time job in a shop or something. :mad: are there any animation job sites/other forums anyone would recommend?

anyone got any work going? I need a job with money involved! I would love to work as an animator full time but it looks like i may have to get a part time job in a shop or something. :mad: are there any animation job sites/other forums anyone would recommend?

Nick, what do you bring to the table? What do YOU offer as a talent?

There's a lot of kids out there that need a job in animation, but probably only a 10% have the "stuff" to work in the field.
Taking a course, however long, in animation is no guarantee of ability.

Is your drawing/artistic ability at a matching level with the current industry?
Don't gauge it by the crap you see--lean more towards the good stuff--because a lot of the behind-the-scenes work is usually better than what goes on screen.
What's your experience?? Got any??
If none, or very little, then your only cachet is raw talent.

What are you creating right now? Is it some funky personal thing, or are you drawing Pokemon and Batman and Spongebob etc?
Are you doing it at their level?
The industry doesn;t give a rat's ass about "your stuff", it wants to know if you can draw THEIR stuff. If you are not doing then, then job's will be fleeting.

Can you demonstrate your talent? Do you know software, techniques, theories etc??? Considered gaming? Ad art? Comics? Have you tried inking? Painting? Sculpting?

By all accounts, there's lots of work out there.
Vancouver BC is hopping busy. I'm looking at work right to April of next year and possibly thru to the end of 2007. LA is busy as well.
The studios want TALENTED people, the schools are pumping out a lot of useless hopefuls salted with a few genuine talents, as they always have. 1 in 10 is the average number that make it in the biz. I've been around long enough to see those numbers hold true over the past 20 years.

AWN has good job listings, but you also get tips by reading other sites too.
Just have to keep your eyes open and ears listening.

If it doesn't happen within your allowable time-line, get a job in a shop for the time being.

Good luck.

"We all grow older, we do not have to grow up"--Archie Goodwin ( 1937-1998)

I really started as more of a fine artist, therefore have a decent standard of drawing but always looking to learn/improve. I'm hard working and passionate about animation. I graduated this summer doing 2d computer animation and immediately worked with a music company. I produced a music video and will be working with them on projects in the future. At the moment I’m in talks with a few bands about music videos.

While I’m not actually working I have time to experiment with different styles of animation. I spend time on characters and write ideas for new animated shorts. I am experienced on After Effects, Premier, Photoshop and Flipbook but I think Flash might be the next program to learn.

I live in the UK and am really looking for a job in London. At the moment I’m freelance, but hopefully soon will get involved with a good animation company. I might look to move abroad if the right job comes up in the future!

Do you know what animation studios there are in London or the UK?

Aloha,
the Ape

...we must all face a choice, between what is right... and what is easy."

I've gone through the animation directory and emailed all the 2d companies in London. Think im gunna need to phone up/go see some of them. That way they can't ignore me!

Cartoon Network is opening a new studio in London: http://www.biganimation.com/magazine/cn.htm

Sharvonique Studios
www.sharvonique.com

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my only knowledge about animation is from watching Akira and Fantasia, but i don't think your showreel is currently at professional standards. either improve it, or find a different dream. i like your sense of style...the moodiness and darkiness in some of your stills and animations is memorable, but overall your animation is just not good enough.

If it doesn't happen within your allowable time-line, get a job in a shop for the time being.

I'm almost convinced that getting a job in a shop is the way to go regardless. Naturally, it depends on your circumstances (as in, you'll know when working in a shop is the wrong thing to do). Having money is good thing. You can always quit later.

-Brendan

Im not gunna give up on animation completely! you cant really expect everyone to have the same style as all that anime stuff! I've only been doin it for a few years and am always improving. Think your being a bit harsh tombrusky. I'm probably gunna end up with a part time job but i aint stopping my animating.

Im not gunna give up on animation completely! ... I'm probably gunna end up with a part time job but i aint stopping my animating.

This strikes me as the right attitude. Earn enough to pay rent, bills and feed yourself. Put the rest of your time into animating. Presumably you'll land paid work as an animator eventually. You can always quit your part time later (although be wary of quitting too soon. =)

-Brendan

Im not gunna give up on animation completely! you cant really expect everyone to have the same style as all that anime stuff! I've only been doin it for a few years and am always improving. Think your being a bit harsh tombrusky. I'm probably gunna end up with a part time job but i aint stopping my animating.

Actually, I agree with Tombrusky-- based on my peeks of your webpage, I also do not think your work is up to professional standards at this time.
Do not take that as an insult, you need to make more progress.
I'd be unfairly patronizing you if I said otherwise.

One thing though is that you are indeed expected to have the "same style as all that anime stuff".....that and any other style put in front of you.

That is why you are being hired as a talent in the business. Its is not a artform ( exxcept in the most pie-in-the-sky view), this is essentially a product that utilizies art for commerce.
That means drawing to the demands of others, not just yourself.

That you've only been doing this for a few years and have just taken a course in the form is not withstanding in the eyes of the industry. A prospective talent can either work at the level the industry demands or it cannot. You will NOT be hired on any other basis.

For a young person that might sound harsh, but that's reality.

"We all grow older, we do not have to grow up"--Archie Goodwin ( 1937-1998)

fair enough my standard needs improving, but you dont really have to encourage me to stop. I'm sure a lot of animators look back at their early work and think it was a bit crap. i could copy other styles if i had to but i prefer making films with my own individual style.

I don't think anyone told you to stop. I believe people said you need to improve your animation. If you can't or won't do that, THEN you should stop.

You animation isn't bad. It looks like you have a good grasp of the basics, but now you need to build on that. Play around with timing and spacing, squash and stretch, arcs, anticipation and so on. Keep plugging away at it. Thats the only way to get better.

On a presentation note, don't use myspace to promote your animation. You don't come off very professional using that site. Also where's your resume? I didn't see it on either site.

Aloha,
the Ape

...we must all face a choice, between what is right... and what is easy."

i got a website but its under construction. myspace is just for fun/meeting other myspacers. I am always looking to improve/learn. I think my actual animation slipped as i did learn the basics a few years ago, so i gotta get back on it! anyways..back to the drawing board....

i could copy other styles if i had to but i prefer making films with my own individual style.

By that, I take it that you spend more time on your own stuff?

Nick, you'll only get work by being able to do others stuff. If you are not doing it now, I implore to begin right away.
Doing your own stuff is fun for many self-indulgent reasons, but doing professional work means drawing that other stuff all the time.
It takes time to pick up the principles behind those other styles--it took me years before I fully clued in.

It starts with basic drawing and it expands to all the aspects of design and then exression and acting while maintaining those designs.

One thing I'm getting a small sense of from you, is a bit of a brusied ego.
Nick, trust me on this........dump the ego. The work has its demands, so work to meet those demands. Everything else is secondary to that effort.
Doing your own stuff allows you to stop at a point you are satisfied, but doing or work means you'll never been 100% satisfied. Lord knows I've never been.
As a pro you cannot allow yourself to have an ego about the work because you WILL have to do corrections. Someone other than yourself will determine whether the work is up to snuff. That means you are constantly second-guessing yourself--its just unavoidable.

Concentrate on basic drawing skills, live drawing, characters, props, landscapes, doodle in many different styles and mediums.
Grab some reference, stuff you like, or stuff you do not, and draw the hell out of it. In fact, you are better off working on material you DISLIKE because a large part of the work is likely to be just that.

Get cracking.

"We all grow older, we do not have to grow up"--Archie Goodwin ( 1937-1998)

I must agree with Ken Davis, it's a hard world out their, and you need to improve improve and improve.

Good luck to you, and try to draw something that people these days like, don't try to make something that only you like.

I need a job too!

Hi, sorry to jump on the bandwagon, but I need a job too! I was hoping you knowledgable and experienced folks might be able to give me some advice as well.

I've been living in Japan for the past three and a half years. I went to anime school, then worked for an anime company for a year and half where I did clean-up, and inbetweens, then I was given the opportunity to direct four TV episodes. Now I'm back in the US hoping to work here.

I ultimately want to direct again, but I realize that this is a long process. Should I start again as an animator, or are there entry level positions for storyboarding? I'm also very concerned that I won't be able to get work as an animator here because in Japan, everything was done by hand, and I have very little computer skills!! help!

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