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I have never had problems with the software until now, im using flash mx, and every time i publish my movie, which isnt that large freezes on the 4th progress bar??? and my computer messes up? any ideas?..ps when i try to publish a very small movie, like tweening a circle left to right it publishes fine, but when I publish a 1 minute long movie it freezes

still not working

I tried both those techniques blue hickey and it still didnt work, so i shortned my movie to like 700 frames and it published, but soon as i do something new it screws up again

This might be reaching but try this, save in a different filename like BH suggested then save in the flash 5 format and see what happens. If this works, resave the renamed doc back in the mx format. That's what I'd try anyways.

pcdoctor

hey pcdoctor, tried ure way to exactly how u said to but still freezes on the 4th blue peg bar. i cant figure it out. nothing like this has happened b4. when i go back to my old movies that are huge files, like 90 mb .fla files they publish fine it just takes a long time, but when i do it with this movie it freezes every time, and its only like a 20 mb .fla file,, please someone help

What are the specs of your computer? And what type and size sound file are you using? Sounds like you may be experiencing some resource problems.

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wut r specs

wut r specs

I might be reaching again but can you email/post to a website the file so that people can download it and maybe export the file for you?
Do you have any bitmaps in your file?

yes

Yes I do have 1 bit map in my file it is a very large bitmap, its an image of stars, i dont think it will be useful to put it on a website for ppl to export it for me becuase i am not done the movie yet, i just got started, i also have a theme song at the beginnig of my movie that plays for like 30 seconds and i also have a few sound effect

Do you have some kind of imported AS in your movie? Or a call that some AS is making from from the movie?
Other thing... maybe your movie is trying to reach some file from outside the .fla and you had moved it`s location.
Try to erase all library items, then publish the movie. Then see wath happends.

Regardz from argentina

Juan

i had this dumbass problem once aswell i didn't find a way to fix it,i ended having to take the fla. and export it from another pc with flash on it.

As

I am assuming AS stands for Action script, I do not use Action script in any of movies so that could not be the case, when i delete everything from the libaray, my movie publishes in like 2 seconds, thats bucuz theres nothing for flash to publish

finally fixed it, i put all the scenes into 1 scene and saved it as a new file and it worked, no idea how

:D cool,its was probably just a random bug.

Glad you fixed it.

finally fixed it, i put all the scenes into 1 scene and saved it as a new file and it worked, no idea how

Hi Gabe. I guess there is the answer to what caused your problems: your file contains too many scenes. It happened to me before; I once made a movie with multiple scenes in one file. When I tried to publish it, Flash wouldn't let me and would hang just like what yours did. When I placed all my scenes into one scene, then I was able to make it work, just like you did.

To avoid this happening again, try doing a studio approach when you do your movies that has many scenes in it. Save each scene into individual files. Publish each scene and then use a movie editor (Premiere or AFX) to stitch them all up. If it's SWF you want, then the technique you stumbled on to will work too.

I'm glad you found a fix. Cheers!

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Scenes have always been problematic with Flash, but mostly when using ActionScript and calling certain frames. I only use a separate scenes to call my preloader, otherwise I use framelabels to keep me organized.

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i thought that worked but it didnt, i have tried everything everyone has suggested, it does not publish for some reason, on the fourth publish bar it flickers and then my computer freeezes!!!!!!1 arghhhhhhh anyone??????????

i thought that worked but it didnt, i have tried everything everyone has suggested, it does not publish for some reason, on the fourth publish bar it flickers and then my computer freeezes!!!!!!1 arghhhhhhh anyone??????????

Hi again, Gabe. That sucks. I thought you were able to find a fix.

Anyway, I read in your thread that you have a particularly big bitmap file in this movie of yours. You might try isolating the problem by removing that bitmap first and taking it out of the movie and try publishing your movie again. Just like you, I sometimes have problems with movies that have large bitmap files. For some strange reason and probably because of a bug, this screws up Flash. I'm not sure if this is the problem (aside from your file having multiple scenes in it) but you can try it.

Good luck!

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Ok Gabe, how much ram do you have, what speed is your processor and how old and what brand is your computer? And what other programs do you have open while you are working in Flash.

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just go with what sandrock says. its not smart to put too much pressure on flash or use it as an output device because thats not what it is.
i have it crash repeatedly when i did a really large pan. case in point. break it down and move it on to Afx.

just go with what sandrock says. its not smart to put too much pressure on flash or use it as an output device because thats not what it is.
i have it crash repeatedly when i did a really large pan. case in point. break it down and move it on to Afx.

If that isn't what it was designed for... an output format, what the hell is Flash? It definitely can handle a lot and output your animation to a smaller format file than most fx compositing software. But you have to keep your unit clean and optimized. And I know from experience if your computer is having problems with Flash it will have problems with the compositing and 3d software also. When's the last time you did any computer housekeeping like defragging and getting rid of all the adware. You may have reached a point where you need to clean up your computer and reinstall MX. That's why I ask for your specs.

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well

I have flash mx, i have a windws ME, and i have very few programs open, i close them all wen i do flash. is there somewhere i can d/l these programs or do i have to buy them

Hey Gabe, it really sounds like your Fla is corrupt. If thats the case you just might be screwed. Have you tried coping and pasting each of your scenes into a new symbol, then copy and pasting that symbol into a new Fla and saving that? Once you do that, you might be able to then copy and paste all those symbols into a new Fla and assemble it there?

The best way to copy a whole bunch of frames and layers into one symbol is this. It's a weird little trick. Don't just copy all your keys and layers and make those into a symbol. Highlight all the layers and keyframes and hit "ctrl + alt + C" to copy all the frames. Then on a new layer use the paintbrush or pencil to draw anything on the screen. Select that and hit "F8" to make that a new symbol. Then double click into that symbol and highlight the first frame on the time line. Hit "ctrl + alt + V" to paste all your keyframes and layers into that symbol. Now you can go back out to the main stage and delete all the layers you just copied. For some reason Flash can handle this method of turning a ton of layers and frames into a symbol than the other way. It maybe that Flash sees the new symbol and now has to just process pasting in the new info rather then creating and pasting at the same time.

Sorry, alittle off topic but it might help now or later on.

Aloha,
the Ape

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If that isn't what it was designed for... an output format, what the hell is Flash? It definitely can handle a lot and output your animation to a smaller format file than most fx compositing software. But you have to keep your unit clean and optimized. And I know from experience if your computer is having problems with Flash it will have problems with the compositing and 3d software also. When's the last time you did any computer housekeeping like defragging and getting rid of all the adware. You may have reached a point where you need to clean up your computer and reinstall MX. That's why I ask for your specs.

well the way i look at it - its a design tool not a compositing+output tool. i have done quite a few shorts and about 2 full length episodes and have never used flash as anything other than for animation only.
i have had plenty of problems when i have tried to do full length shots because files get heavy and super slow down. Otherwise i have had times with long pans when the program just crashes.
so i stick with compositing in After Fx. i would only use Flash all the way if i was using it to create web based animation.
to each his own i guess.

Gabe is there any chance you can zip that fla file and upload it somewhere where we can download it and take a look?

How long have you waited for it to publish? I've had a couple of big files where I've had to go do something else for a while. Especially if you have a really complex bit of art work in there that you are using on multiple frames. If that's the case try converting that particular piece of work to a symbol and save. Then try publishing again.

It really sounds like a resource problem. You never said how much ram you have.

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thanks

well Phacker, it would be stalled od the fourth bar for well over 5 minutes, then i wood hit ctrl alt delete and it would say "Flash MX (not responding)"
what i did do though is go to publish settings and change the output name from its original, and i copied the one scene and pasted it into a new one, and I was able to finally get the movie to publish. I think I am just going to have to play around on flash to get it to publish. I am going to publish the movie as seldomly as possible. You can take a look at what all the fuss was about
www.geocities.com/gabemarchionda/work.html
Its not that great, but i just wanted to draw some unique characters, so i put it into a star wars type movie
tell me what you think

PS: thanks for all the help everyone

I really don't see anything in that swf that should be giving you problems. And by the way Gabe, your stuff is really improving.

Someone else mentioned you should get rid of any assets you aren't using in the library. Do that by opening your library panel and I think you click on the little arrow and choose select all unused, then delete the ones you aren't using. Really shrinks the fla size. Looking at the bitmap of the star field, why not make one of your one with vector, that would be a whole lot more Flash friendly. Just convert the bmp to a symbol, open it, add a layer above it and dab in your stars with the brush tool, add another layer below the stars and but in gradient square for the sky then delete the bmp.

I still think you are overdue for some computer housekeeping. I think you have some stuff drawing on your resources. You need to run Lavasoft's Adaware and Spotbot Search and destroy, then follow up with a thorough defrag. There's a defrag program built into WinMe in the Programs, System Tools portion. Adaware and Spybot are freeware programs that every computer owner should have and use on at least a weekly basis.

http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

http://www.safer-networking.org/

These adware and spybot things can run in the background and really cripple an older machine. If you don't clean them out from time to time, it really make things impossible.

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thanks

thanks phacker ill do that

I've had this problem before with an exceptionally large file (It was about an 8 minute movie with a full length music track and lotsa bitmaps). I was unable to get it to export until I removed the audio track. (Which I ended up exporting on its own and had it call from another movie for web playback)

Flash just doesn't do well with very large projects. It DOES have some theoretical limits as to the number of frames or objects in a movie, and is a notorious RAM hog, so it is possible for a file to be too big for either your machine or Flash itself.

I tend to build large projects in small pieces now.

I have also seen progress bars on export hang for a long time before suddenly finishing. (Wouldn't you love to get your hands on the guy who programs those?) Be sure you give it a lot of time for big projects before abandoning all hope.

And, as mentioned earlier, files can get corrupted. Sometime certain objects or assets within a file can introduce buggy behaviour, too. (Frankly, I wish Macromedia would just release a "We fixed all the bugs" version of Flash and quit cramming more features only a geek could love into it)

You might check your logs to see if they can offer anything helpful. Or try exporting into a different format to see if it exports at all, or if it simply doesn't want to export into your preferred format.

If all else fails, beat your head against a wall. I do that a lot. It won't solve your problem, but you may end up taking up a less frustrating hobby.

Good luck!

I don't have a definite answer, but sometimes flash files start to get buggy. I"ve had similar odd things happen and you can try to get around it in a number of ways.
-try closing the file, renaming it something completely different and then opening it up and trying again.
-copy all your frames from your fla and open a brand new fla and paste all your animation into it and save it out. That might help too.

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