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Well, nobody really sets out to make a bad movie (I remember hearin' that someplace :rolleyes: ). Things just turn out that way (money runs out, bad timing, switching directors in the middle of shooting, switching ideas in the middle of shooting, lame premise, script is over-doctored).

And some flicks just don't age that well ("Dances With Wolves," on second glance, is kind of a dog, what with Costner non-acting and being upstaged by everyone/thing else onscreen (the other actors, the Western landscape, his horse, a wolf). But I still manage to let out a tiny cheer when that little punk, Spivey, finally gets his... :)

As for celluloid cookie-dough, I guess I should include "The Posiedeon Adventure," "Love Story," "Brian's Song," and any movie featuring a man and his monkey: "Any Which Way But Loose," "Any Which Way You Can," "Roadhouse," "Monkey Shines" and "Beach Blanket Bingo" (There's a chimp in it :D )

"...It is a foolish mistake to even try to second-guess the public. Make things for yourself and if by chance someone agrees with you, it's coincidental."

--Julian Schnabel

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Michael Bay - The Island
massive flop.
nuff said.

But people need their little Offiical Bestest-Ever Lists. All these lists are for is so elitist pricks all have their story strait. Everyone is pissed because they think the Matrix is The Best Movie or that the Rolling Stones were The Greatest Band instead of the Beatles. Then they are compelled to write indignant screeds to the editor of Rolling Stone to inform him his expert panel of list constructors are a bunch of mouth-breathing knuckle heads.

Personally, I would have put Lawrence of Arabia at number 1 before Citizen Kane, but... :eek: whoops! I've played into their sick little game...

I don't like to play that game either, but Citizen Kane was at the top of many of those lists for a long time. It's not my personal favourite film. Basically I don't think it was rated that high by accident, I don't think any critics were fooled. That's what I meant when I said it was as close to a 'greatest ever' as we are likely to see. I also don't think it has dated significantly, and can be enjoyed as easily as any modern film. Any 'greatest ever' list winds up putting things on a pedestal that can get a little ridiculous, but it is best to take these with a grain of salt. In fact I think you can often have a more personal response to a flawed movie than a 'great' one.

Incidently, I didn't like Citizen Kane because it uses a series of elaborate filmmaking gimmicks or because it defined a whole new vocabulary for film or anything like that. I liked it because it was a compelling story and powererfully told.

I don't think you can entirely dismiss the whole "10-miles-in-the-snow-to-school" mentality either. I mean I could probably rent some heavy machinery and build my own Stonehenge in about a week, but so what? As it gets easier to do things, it becomes more commonplace and less impressive. There are still many things out there that are not so common, and plenty of new ground to break, and even with all the technology that exists today there are still limitations, and still things that are difficult and time-consuming, and those are some of the things that will impress people in the future. Which is not to say that something must be difficult and time-consuming to be impressive, but you get the idea.

Are we still talking about Citizen Kane?

Citizen Kane is the opposite of DSB's definition of a bad movie as "pretty much reviled by every living being on Earth, except you."
Citizen Kane is praised by nearly every living being on Earth, except Phacker.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/citizen_kane/

Can we get back to the crap?
I like Cabin Boy. :D

by all means.

League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

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I'm amazed that Kevin Smith gets as much work as he does.
He is now making yet another Clerks sequel.
He should just cut to the chase and go work for Troma.
(The Clerks cartoon show was kinda funny though.)

Speaking of Troma, I like Cannibal the Musical. That qualifies as a bad movie, right?

Don't get me wrong guys. I like Orson. I've seen all of his films and watch them every time they are broadcast. Try and find the uncut copy of his version of Jane Eyre and watch for the scene where he masquerades as the Gypsy fortune teller. It's Orson at his hammy best. And check out the Black Rose...Orson as a Mongol. And I have to admit Tomorrow is Forever is one of my favorites too, it's pure smarm.

Last StarFighter is one of those films I always watch when its on.

Add to my list bad films that I love to watch:

Whatever Happened to Baby Jane
They Might be Giants
Excalibur

And one I am not proud to admit to is: (Take a deep breath and sit down this one is a real stinker. I think it was only viewed by a handful of people, but I mail ordered the tape, because it's such fun.)

Yes Giorgio: with Luciano Pavarotti
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6302593123/104-0300395-9068701?v=glance

It's a great film to watch over a plate of pasta.

Pat Hacker, Visit Scooter's World.

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Attack of the the [sic] Eye Creatures

Now you're just running through the MST3K episode list. :p

How about THE CREEPING TERROR! :eek: ?

I don't know if this one has been mentioned or not but a guilty pleasure of mine is Masters of the Universe, the live action feature of the cartoon series with Dolph Lundgren as He-Man.

Movies I would love to see again and that I watched all the time growing up are films like Attach of the Puppet People and The Man with X-Ray Eyes.

Not to mention any movie featuring Gamera.

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Ringling College of Art and Design
Sarasota Florida

Dolph Lungdren kicks ass.

what dosent kick ass is anything Steven Seagal from Under Siege II onwards. especially some of the films he has done either with rappers (DMX, Ja Rule) or ones shot in Eastern Europe.
guy has put on so much weight and obviously cant do any of his action anymore so he pops people with guns. which is kinda pointless

Not to mention any movie featuring Gamera.

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He is full of turtle meat
Hooray for Ga-mer-raaaaaaaa!
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If you are objective and listened to Orson on various talk shows like I had the opportunity to do, Kane and the Ambersons were both pieces of pretencious junk that the critics and public both bought into because they were afraid to tell the emperor (Welles) that he wore no clothes. Sure he added to the artistic mix with his camera angles and stuff, but get real he was manipulating current attitudes and cycles. 3rd man is another piece of pretencious crap if you look at it with a critical, objective view point.

And Macbeth, give me a break. You couldn't even understand the dialogue. Bells Chime at Midnight was probably one of his better characterizations if you are a Welles fan.

actually i am quite objective. Kane wasnt exactly a huge hit or a surefire critical success when it came out. there were a lot of things in the film that you wouldnt find in those days.

i also dont think its the greatest film ever made and might be a bit over the top. BUT i do think Welles was briefly probably the most talented film maker in the world especially considering it was practically his first full length feature as director, writer and actor.

im not even gonna expound on some of the things Greg Tolland pioneered as the Director of photography but it was the best use of deep focus shots i have seen up until now (as a cinematic device) as well as the bit where they show the tables growing between kane and his wife. that too hadnt been used until then. it was quite a piece of work.
As for the Ambersons we dont know how it would have gone coz we will never see his actual version. but what i saw was quite great.

if Welles makes derogatory comments about his work you must understand he was quite disillusioned by Hollywood and the studios.A lot like Brando who thought some his roles were crap or could have been done by anyone.

When I saw Citizen Kane for the first time I was fully expecting a pretentious bore, and would have been only too eager to declare it as such, if indeed the emperor had had no clothes. But as far as I'm concerned, it more than lived up to it's lofty reputation, and I think it is as close to the greatest film ever made as we are ever likely to see. How anyone who dismisses it so casually can call themselves objective I'll never understand.

see the thing is any movie with a real low budget, slasher type or somethign with Dean Cain in it is supposed to be bad. so thats not really on.

a bad movie that was made with a huge budget with A list stars and a good caste that turned out to be real bad.

thats where its at

Lizard's got it down, and that's really the kind of movies I was looking for here: big budget, A-list stars, disastrous results - but you love it anyway.

There are far too many movies that are bad because of low budgets or actors and directors who don't know what they're doing. And let's keep the "universally panned by critics" qualification in mind too.

I'm a big Ed Wood fan, why, I don't know, so I'd say "Plan 9" or "Glen or Glenda" from him. Actually, I've started working on a cut-out + toy + 2D animated version of Plan 9 but with a few minor re-writings of my own called "The Night I Quit My Job" and it only will last 5 minutes or so.

Other than those, probably "Turner and Hooch".

I frankly think they should remake Plan 9 as a big-budget movie on the scale of War of the Worlds meets Dawn of the Dead.
The recent movie Undead almost seemed like an inverted remake of Plan 9.

A new colorized version of Plan 9 is to be released on DVD.
http://www.legendfilms.net/index2.html

I don't know why you'd classify those as bad movies. Those are all classics.

Yes, but they have some major cheese factor. 60's-70's movies were full of cheese. That's what made them so horribly good.

Lindsey Keess
Animator

I'm a sucker for Bruckheimer produced movies in the '90-present (yes, even the Michael Bay ones). They aren't 'good', but they sure are entertaining.

"Gone in 60 Seconds"
"Armageddon"
"Coyote Ugly"
"The Rock"
"Con Air"

Enjoyed them quite a bit. I'll hand in my "Snooty Film Critic" Membership card at the door. :(

Although, I couldn't stand Bad Boys II (and still haven't seen the first one), does that redeem me at all? Wasn't much of a fan of the Tom Cruise (Top Gun, Days of Thunder films) either.

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Although, I couldn't stand Bad Boys II (and still haven't seen the first one), does that redeem me at all?

Kdiddy, you've got to see Bad Boys. Not a great film by any stretch, but waaaaaay more fun than BB2

Bad Boys was great. another real good bad flick is Sahara. talk about a disaster. but the mother of all disasters is

drumr roll please.

Adventures of Pluto Nash. Loss of bout $90mill :)

Resident Evil :p

One word: Barbarella.

But Hudson Hawk is a good bad one too.

One word: Thundercougarfalconbird

Killer Clowns From Outer Space

The Last Star Fighter

Hell comes to Frog Town starring the good old Rowdy Roddy Piper.

A post Nuclear world where water is more precious than life and the sperm of the last remaining men is worth more than gold!
The frogs come into it at some point as well.

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"The Rose and the Sword" but it was released under another name that escapes me.

Jennifer Jason Leigh in her altogether, Rutger Hauer, Vincent Schievelli, castles, the plague, etc. I had it, got rid of it, got it again, got rid of it again (for fear my kids would find it). I think Paul Verhoeven directed it.

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