:D If you want I can still made a sacrifice - but I'm not sure about sacrificing a chicken it's not big enough for your business and to convince bank and studios. That's where the problems lies in first hand, not in your work - the first chicken sacrifice was not big enough. We all can try with an elefant, or a whale... maybe a lion :eek: , but I'm not sure he will agree with me... and we need to catch them first huhu. :D
No, seriously. For me it seem that your idea is good and hope that things will change and that you will be accepted at last. Aaaaah those companies, never happy with what you propose to them. :D
:D If you want I can still made a sacrifice - but I'm not sure about sacrificing a chicken it's not big enough for your business and to convince bank and studios. That's where the problems lies in first hand, not in your work - the first chicken sacrifice was not big enough. We all can try with an elefant, or a whale... maybe a lion :eek: , but I'm not sure he will agree with me... and we need to catch them first huhu. :D
No, seriously. For me it seem that your idea is good and hope that things will change and that you will be accepted at last. Aaaaah those companies, never happy with what you propose to them. :D
Between MooBeard and Bessie, maybe we should sacrifice a cow, instead.
In addition to the attorney, I've sent an email to a friend at another forum who is trying to get us a connection with Warner, Cartoon Network and directly to Nickelodeon. More as I hear it.
Also, I've sent Jab info about redoing this for Frederator after all. We'll let you know what we decide to do about that, too.
Stay tooned.
i think Nick is one of those people who prefer things handed in by an attorney which shouldnt cost more than $100 or something since it only need originate from that office.
OK, this is the pic that was posted at the Frederator website. Let's start here and I'll introduce everyone and tell a little bit about the story.
First, the cool chap in the center. That's Fly Guy. He's not important. We'll come back to him.
The guy in the coveralls to the right is Ernesto Modesto. He's an exterminator, but he's an unusual one because he wouldn't harm a fly. Fly Guy, on the other hand, is another matter. Mr. Modesto has an evil partner/associate/henchman named Turlock Reuterskiold Tsetselewska (TUR-lok ROO-ter-sky-old Shet-shell-EV-skuh.) He just goes by Turlock. So, Modesto and Turlock are the bad guys. Turlock was not in the short, so he's not in this drawing. While Ernesto has a flair for the theatrical, Turlock's all business.
Ernesto wears a backpack sprayer which sprays pheromones that can attract insects from miles around. These insects will attack property or people, at Ernesto's command. His backpack can tranform into a jetpack that he uses for offense or defense in battle, or to elevate him when he summons assistance from his insect friends. He also owns a utility van with a very large grasshopper on top. This converts to the "Hopper Chopper," a vehicle that Ernesto can use to attack or escape.
Ernesto is a first-class attention whore. Money and power mean nothing except for the attention they bring him. He's easily distracted when he's being stroked, and he seeks out the limelight at all times.
To the far left and right of the picture are two of Ernesto's other helpers, the Swarmtroopers. Buglike in appearance, movement, manner, communication and attack, they can strike fear in the most courageous of souls. They wield "zappers," long staves with electrified prongs on one end. We don't know if they're men in armor, mechanized drones, or insects that have been horribly deformed for Ernie's twisted purposes.
The young man just to the right of the unimportant guy is Tom - Tom Bryant. Tom is like me, and probably like many of you. He doesn't just like Spiderman or Superman or Captain Marvel. He wants to BE them. He wants to be a superhero so badly, in fact, that's he's convinced himself that it's his destiny to become one. Time will tell if that's really the case... it might be. Tom has a best friend named Scott Byron. Scott can't decide if he's class clown or rebel without a cause. He's been the witness to Tom's superhero fixation since they were five, but he sticks around because a weird friend is still better than no friend at all.
The girl to the left of Mr. Cool is Melanie - Melanie Olivia Gaster. The scientific name for her kind is poofhead. It is her personal goal in life to keep the local mall in business. She's pretty, popular, princessey, and a force to be reckoned with if pissed off. Don't worry about getting on her good side. You won't. You don't deserve it. Melanie has a mom and dad, hip friends Beatrice and "Dimples", the eye of every guy at Barlow High, and seemingly not a care in the world.
Until Tom made a huge mistake.
Tom got tired of waiting for Destiny to get off its ass and make him a superhero, so he decided to help it along. He played with chemistry, biology, electronics, suppliments, etc. One participant of a fruit fly breeding experiment escaped and got into some chemicals from another of his experiments. Tom shooed the fly away before realizing its importance. Before he could grab it, it was swallowed by Melanie, who immediately started developing powers.
Now here's a dilemma. Tom's at his wits' end. He's the hero, but the powers - HIS powers - went to that ditz in his class. Melanie is at HER wits' end because she stands to lose her popularity, her friends, her NORMALITY because of a screwup by this freak who now won't leave her alone.
He wants to be her.
She wants to be him.
He can't make the powers go away.
She won't learn to live with them.
Not willing to let his destiny escape so easily, Tom devises a cunning plan. He "manufactures" a superhero that he calls "Fly Guy." Everyone - EVERYONE - knows Tom's a superhero freak, so showing up in Spandex isn't going to fool any body. But when Fly Guy shows up 6'4, broad chest, rippling muscles, blonde spiked hair, dark sunglasses and a toothy grin, and a sharp red Armani suit with a floor-length black cape - well, there's no way in HELL that could be Tom, 'cause Tom could NEVER be that cool.
Now all Tom has to do is convince Melanie to, you know, HELP a little.
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That's how Fly Guy is different. It's really not about Fly Guy at all. It's about Tom and Melanie having to overcome their different points-of-view and work together to be a hero when a hero is needed. Tom is vulnerable but he's in front. Melanie hides in his cape and can't be relied upon in a situation where she might be discovered. She generally follows Tom's lead, but sometimes, her ditzy solutions prove more effective than Tom's brilliant ones.
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Now you can understand why that's a LOT to communicate in a seven minute cartoon. In the short, Ernesto, the attention whore, storms an "American Idol"-type program so he can sing to a hostage audience. Tom sees it on TV and calls Melanie, who meets him at the studio. They bust into the studio together as "Fly Guy" and they stop Ernesto. There's a fight with the band (Swarmtroopers), an attack by bugs, a mid-air fight with Ernesto, some funny stuff with the judges (who look like Boy George, MC Hammer and Britney Spears), and finally Melanie takes him down.
As Larry Huber of Frederator said in our pitch, this works fine if you replace Fly Guy with Superman or Spiderman, because people know them. They know who they are, what they can do, what their motivations are, etc. Not only do I have the story to tell, but either I have to explain why Fly Guy is the way HE is (too long) or leave him unexplained (hurts the story). On top of that, this is for 7-11 year old viewers, younger than the real target audience by a few years. Fly Guy is for the Avatar: The Last Airbender or Teen Titans fan, not the Powerpuff Girls or Fairly OddParents fan.
Whew! More in a second post.... take a break, smoke 'em if you got 'em.
:D If you want I can still made a sacrifice - but I'm not sure about sacrificing a chicken it's not big enough for your business and to convince bank and studios. That's where the problems lies in first hand, not in your work - the first chicken sacrifice was not big enough. We all can try with an elefant, or a whale... maybe a lion :eek: , but I'm not sure he will agree with me... and we need to catch them first huhu. :D
No, seriously. For me it seem that your idea is good and hope that things will change and that you will be accepted at last. Aaaaah those companies, never happy with what you propose to them. :D
Between MooBeard and Bessie, maybe we should sacrifice a cow, instead.
I just wanted to say, holy crap! I've got over a thousand views to this thread?!?
you are sure it will be big enough? :D
Hey, I've been meaning to ask you... you're not related to Bill Peet, are you?
i think Nick is one of those people who prefer things handed in by an attorney which shouldnt cost more than $100 or something since it only need originate from that office.
OK, this is the pic that was posted at the Frederator website. Let's start here and I'll introduce everyone and tell a little bit about the story.
First, the cool chap in the center. That's Fly Guy. He's not important. We'll come back to him.
The guy in the coveralls to the right is Ernesto Modesto. He's an exterminator, but he's an unusual one because he wouldn't harm a fly. Fly Guy, on the other hand, is another matter. Mr. Modesto has an evil partner/associate/henchman named Turlock Reuterskiold Tsetselewska (TUR-lok ROO-ter-sky-old Shet-shell-EV-skuh.) He just goes by Turlock. So, Modesto and Turlock are the bad guys. Turlock was not in the short, so he's not in this drawing. While Ernesto has a flair for the theatrical, Turlock's all business.
Ernesto wears a backpack sprayer which sprays pheromones that can attract insects from miles around. These insects will attack property or people, at Ernesto's command. His backpack can tranform into a jetpack that he uses for offense or defense in battle, or to elevate him when he summons assistance from his insect friends. He also owns a utility van with a very large grasshopper on top. This converts to the "Hopper Chopper," a vehicle that Ernesto can use to attack or escape.
Ernesto is a first-class attention whore. Money and power mean nothing except for the attention they bring him. He's easily distracted when he's being stroked, and he seeks out the limelight at all times.
To the far left and right of the picture are two of Ernesto's other helpers, the Swarmtroopers. Buglike in appearance, movement, manner, communication and attack, they can strike fear in the most courageous of souls. They wield "zappers," long staves with electrified prongs on one end. We don't know if they're men in armor, mechanized drones, or insects that have been horribly deformed for Ernie's twisted purposes.
The young man just to the right of the unimportant guy is Tom - Tom Bryant. Tom is like me, and probably like many of you. He doesn't just like Spiderman or Superman or Captain Marvel. He wants to BE them. He wants to be a superhero so badly, in fact, that's he's convinced himself that it's his destiny to become one. Time will tell if that's really the case... it might be. Tom has a best friend named Scott Byron. Scott can't decide if he's class clown or rebel without a cause. He's been the witness to Tom's superhero fixation since they were five, but he sticks around because a weird friend is still better than no friend at all.
The girl to the left of Mr. Cool is Melanie - Melanie Olivia Gaster. The scientific name for her kind is poofhead. It is her personal goal in life to keep the local mall in business. She's pretty, popular, princessey, and a force to be reckoned with if pissed off. Don't worry about getting on her good side. You won't. You don't deserve it. Melanie has a mom and dad, hip friends Beatrice and "Dimples", the eye of every guy at Barlow High, and seemingly not a care in the world.
Until Tom made a huge mistake.
Tom got tired of waiting for Destiny to get off its ass and make him a superhero, so he decided to help it along. He played with chemistry, biology, electronics, suppliments, etc. One participant of a fruit fly breeding experiment escaped and got into some chemicals from another of his experiments. Tom shooed the fly away before realizing its importance. Before he could grab it, it was swallowed by Melanie, who immediately started developing powers.
Now here's a dilemma. Tom's at his wits' end. He's the hero, but the powers - HIS powers - went to that ditz in his class. Melanie is at HER wits' end because she stands to lose her popularity, her friends, her NORMALITY because of a screwup by this freak who now won't leave her alone.
He wants to be her.
She wants to be him.
He can't make the powers go away.
She won't learn to live with them.
Not willing to let his destiny escape so easily, Tom devises a cunning plan. He "manufactures" a superhero that he calls "Fly Guy." Everyone - EVERYONE - knows Tom's a superhero freak, so showing up in Spandex isn't going to fool any body. But when Fly Guy shows up 6'4, broad chest, rippling muscles, blonde spiked hair, dark sunglasses and a toothy grin, and a sharp red Armani suit with a floor-length black cape - well, there's no way in HELL that could be Tom, 'cause Tom could NEVER be that cool.
Now all Tom has to do is convince Melanie to, you know, HELP a little.
-----------
That's how Fly Guy is different. It's really not about Fly Guy at all. It's about Tom and Melanie having to overcome their different points-of-view and work together to be a hero when a hero is needed. Tom is vulnerable but he's in front. Melanie hides in his cape and can't be relied upon in a situation where she might be discovered. She generally follows Tom's lead, but sometimes, her ditzy solutions prove more effective than Tom's brilliant ones.
----------
Now you can understand why that's a LOT to communicate in a seven minute cartoon. In the short, Ernesto, the attention whore, storms an "American Idol"-type program so he can sing to a hostage audience. Tom sees it on TV and calls Melanie, who meets him at the studio. They bust into the studio together as "Fly Guy" and they stop Ernesto. There's a fight with the band (Swarmtroopers), an attack by bugs, a mid-air fight with Ernesto, some funny stuff with the judges (who look like Boy George, MC Hammer and Britney Spears), and finally Melanie takes him down.
As Larry Huber of Frederator said in our pitch, this works fine if you replace Fly Guy with Superman or Spiderman, because people know them. They know who they are, what they can do, what their motivations are, etc. Not only do I have the story to tell, but either I have to explain why Fly Guy is the way HE is (too long) or leave him unexplained (hurts the story). On top of that, this is for 7-11 year old viewers, younger than the real target audience by a few years. Fly Guy is for the Avatar: The Last Airbender or Teen Titans fan, not the Powerpuff Girls or Fairly OddParents fan.
Whew! More in a second post.... take a break, smoke 'em if you got 'em.
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