Talking with Con Pederson
In early May, William Moritz visited
with Con Pederson, a visual effects pioneer, who worked closely with Stanley
Kubrick on 2001: A Space Odyssey. Credited as one of four Special
Photographic Effects Supervisors on the film, he and Doug Trumbull created
a myriad of stars, planets and space ships, plus the unforgettable stargate
sequence.
WM: So, when and where were you born? CP: I just turned 65, which means I was born in 1934, just
as the Depression was easing up. We lived up in the woods of Minnesota,
but then we moved to California in 1943. So from then on my childhood
was spent amongst airplanes; both my parents worked building bombers and
fighters. Where the LAX airport is now was just bean fields, artillery
emplacements, barrage balloons and that sort of thing. I was selling newspapers
during WW II and it made an effect on me in two ways: I think I'm very
conscious of the global character of the 20th century, and also I learned
how to scavenge, which I've been doing ever since.
WM: What led you into the film world?
CP: Accident! I think the fact that I grew up in Inglewood, which isn't
far from Hollywood. After a couple of years at City College, I went to
UCLA, 1951 to '53. I eventually worked on my M.A. but never quite finished
because at that point I discovered the animation school over in Theater
Arts at UCLA. Somebody told me that it was a lot of fun doing animation
so I thought I'd try it, and made a couple of student films. The next
thing you know, I was vacuumed up by Disney.
WM: What were your student films like?
CP: They were little cartoons, inspired by UPA, which in those days was
the avant-garde of animation. John Hubley and the other UPA guys were
doing two-dimensional design with flashy colors, like Rooty Toot Toot.
Hubley was kind of an icon.
WM: So Disney hired you?
CP: Yes, I took my student films there. My instructor at UCLA, Bill Shull,
who had worked at Disney, thought they might be interested in hiring me,
primarily because at that point I'd already written science fiction and
gotten heavily immersed in rocketry and that sort of thing. I don't think
they had ever hired a college kid before, but they decided to take a chance
on me for story. I began working on their space documentary series, which
got me even more deeply involved. Their technical advisor was primarily
Werner von Braun, who was at Redstone Arsenal at that time. It turned
out to be fortuitous, because I was drafted into the army in fall of '56,
and by a circuitous route I ended up in Alabama working for Werner von
Braun. They had shipped me off to the First Armor Division in Louisiana,
from which nobody was ever known to escape short of their time, but Walt
Disney personally brought me to the attention of Werner von Braun because
they had just got an animation camera there and didn't know how to use
it. The next thing you know I was in a nice outfit of scientific and professional
personnel at the Redstone Arsenal Army Post and Missile Agency doing very
short films to present ideas to Congress, to explain what they were doing
-- mostly secret undertakings of the Cold War, atomic testing in the Pacific
for which we supplied short-range missiles. I got a look at what was going
on in astronautics at that time, which was mainly propulsion systems.
Von Braun was primarily a chemist. He had a couple of hundred Germans
there, whom they had managed to get before the Russians did. They had
quite a level of expertise. These people were at White Sands for a while
in '46 and eventually ended up in Alabama. We were involved with all the
test procedures for Cape Canaveral. We launched the first satellite in
February '58. It was an answer to Sputnik, but it took us 40 months to
put something up in space. The first Explorer satellite was kind of fun.
I worked in graphic engineering, which did illustrations. Mostly we worked
on how to get to the moon. It was called Project Nova, but actually everything
about it was used by the Apollo project. Our rocket was a much tubbier
thing, more like the Soviet rockets, but basically the plan of taking
off with a booster rocket, going around the earth, going around the moon,
landing on the moon, and then going back up to the orbiter and bringing
it back to earth, plus, the propulsion system based on unsymmetrical dimetholidozyne
(which was von Braun's favorite rocket fuel) -- all of that was worked
out at Huntsville in 1957 and '58. We also did a lot of stuff about Mars.
Everyone was interested in rockets for military use, and they were so
efficient at testing things that they were able to squirrel away hardware
and stuff that could be used at the advent of NASA.
WM: You were right in the heart of things there.
CP: Yes, but when I got out, I went back to UCLA to finish my graduate
work, moonlighting part time at Disney for awhile. Then that petered out
because General Motors didn't want to sponsor some of the stuff Walt wanted
to do, primarily a series on conservation which Walt thought was necessary
at that time. General Motors said, 'We don't think that's a good idea.'
Literally. So Walt broke up the unit that had been doing the documentaries,
and I worked on Pluto [the animated dog] and stuff, but I really wanted
to go back to school so I took off. A couple of days after I began school
full time in '59, I was hired by Graphic Films. They made me an offer
that was too tempting. I stayed there for six years, doing mostly Air
Force films on space.
























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