Speaking For Zimself: A Conversation With Jhonen Vasquez

Martin "Dr. Toon" Goodman invades the mind of Jhonen Vasquez, the creator of Invader Zim, to discuss Zim, Jhonen's ideas and inspirations, and the ups and downs of producing his first animated series.

Dr. T: As a comic book artist of some renown yourself, talk about some of the artists working on the show. Who -- or what -- has really impressed you?

JV: The character designer, Aaron Alexovitch -- who we found right out of school. He was going to Cal Arts, or some nightmare place, and he took the chance to work on the show. He was going to school so that he could break into some kind of animation business, and he was given the opportunity to work on Zim. He took it, and he worked out. Originally he was going to be a clean-up artist and he's made his way up to head character designer now. I can completely trust in what he's going to do. His style is close enough to mine to where he can actually improve upon the look of the show at this point. That's what it's all about, getting better and better. The color crew is great; those people really pick up on how interesting the color schemes are. They are phenomenal in what they do, and in the amount of time they do it. They get a look out of the show that just makes it stand out. It's a dark but colorful look, like I love. They can reproduce it by this point without me telling them anything; they just do it. It's getting to that point where I can leave the building and not lose my mind over what hideous things are happening to my show. It's cool because these people, they love working on the show. Aside from all the nightmarish hours they put into it, you can tell that they actually enjoy it now, as opposed to just having a job.

Dr. T: Would you try this again, Jhonen? Do you see yourself working on a future animated series?

JV: I would have to shoot myself several times in the face to achieve a certain level of brain damage to agree to it again. Which I was planning on doing, but not to get back into animation. I was just going to shoot myself because I could use the rest! I don't want to get stuck working on children's animation, I don't think. Well, maybe I don't think of it as "stuck," but there are so many other ideas I want to work on that are limited by what I can do on a kids' show. I don't want to just have fun with a creepy kids' show, I want to work on something genuinely creepy. I definitely have to, because I have so many ideas I have to get out of my head before I'm dead -- which could be anytime now.

Dr. T: Did you watch cartoons as a kid? What kind of animation did you watch?

JV: The usual garbage you just can't help but like when you're little, like He-Man. I remember when watching He-Man I thought, "Wow, this is garbage!" because they had, you know, five drawings that they used every episode. Stuff that I really, really loved, I didn't find myself being amazed by. It was more just enjoying it in a sort of cartoon haze, a "sitting there, eating your cereal, watching cartoons" kind of level. There wasn't really any appreciation for how amazing the stuff was until I saw stuff like Akira. I always hated Scooby Doo. I couldn't stand how brown everything was! It was like staring at feces for half an hour. Euuh! I think there's a good thing about the fact that I didn't take a lot of this with me, love for these cartoons I saw while growing up, because I don't put a lot of that into what I do now. I don't derive a lot of inspiration from growing up with this stuff. There's a lot of stuff out there that looks like new episodes of a really old show to me. One or two shows, that's OK, but there are a lot of shows on the American side of things that are so retro, so tired-looking to me. It would be cool to see something done on this side that breaks away from that. There's been a cool response to (Invader Zim) just on that level alone, in that people dig the different look of it.

Dr. T: Jhonen, you give a great interview. Is there anything you have never said in an interview that you want to say now? Let it rip!

JV: Daily, I drink about a garbage bag of baby's blood. How's that?

Dr. T: Uh...please don't let Squee hear about it!

Jhonen Vasquez, 26, currently resides in Los Angeles where he plots future horrors from the dark sanctuary of his drawing table. His comic books have been nominated for several Eisner Awards, are produced by Slave Labor Graphics and are kept continually in print to the delight of fans old and new. Jhonen actually prefers Pillsbury crescent rolls to baby's blood, but you won't find him eating Scooby Snacks anytime soon.

Martin "Dr. Toon" Goodman is a longtime student and fan of animation. He lives in Anderson, Indiana.







Comments


So I met this guy in college, and he asked me if I had seen Invader Zim. I just stared blankly, and said "no, why?" Well, he had a plethora of episodes downloaded on his computer. I watched a few, and got hooked. Hook, line, and anvil. They were great!! Of course I was disturbed, but I chuckled like a maniac every time. Organs was by far the most detestable work of genius I had ever seen. However, my addiciton to Zim bled into other areas of Vasquez's work. This past summer I was sitting around, musing about my life and how slow things get in the summer when a friend dropped JTHM in my lap. Talk about a God send. I found myself liking Johnny, against all reason, and agreeing with the mundane stupidity of our society. However, I read SQUEE! and when I came to Wobbly Headed Bob, and latched on to his ravings about superiority and supreme intelect, it hit me like a sledgehammer to the cranium: he was a moron. He only thought he was superior, just like Zim. He was self-sabatoging and infectiously unhappy. Good intentions, but the wires got scrambled. Then I laughed, and laughed. Cause you kinda like the creepy, crawly, depraved imaginings in ink laid out beofre you. All I can say is, keep it coming, and let those good heads roll!
Bunny Norton (not verified) | Wed, 10/30/2002 - 01:00 | Permalink
I THINK JHONEN IS THE MOST CREATIVE MIND OUT THERE. EVER SINCE I FIRST SAW INVADER ZIM I HAVE BEEN INFLUENCED BY JHONEN. I HAVE ALL OF HIS WORKS. I FEEL BAD ABOUT WHAT NICKELODEON DID TO ZIM. I AM ALSO AN ARTIST AND HOPE TO ONE DAY WORK WITH JHONEN. I DREW ON AND OFF FOR YEARS BUT EVER SINCE I WAS INTRODUCED TO JHONEN BRAND OF THINKING I HAVE DRAWN NON-STOP. I ALSO HAVE A COMIC (BINX) AND WHEN IT GETS UP AND RUNNING I WISH TO WORK WITH JHONEN. I HAVE A WEB PAGE TO VOICE MYSELF. http://hometown.aol.com/invaderzim007/myhomepage/profile.html IF JHONEN EVER WANTED TO GET OTHER OF HIS CREATIONS MADE INTO A CARTOON I BET THAT CARTOON-NETWORK WOULD DO IT. ALSO, HE SHOULD MAKE HIS WORK INTO MADE FOR TV MOVIES OR HE COULD EVEN THINK ABOUT MAKING HIS STUFF INTO AN ACTUAL BIG SCREEN CARTOON. PLEASE E-MAIL ME BACK.
ZIM (NICK NAME) GLEESON (not verified) | Wed, 10/09/2002 - 00:00 | Permalink
jhonen is one of my favourite artist/writers of all time and i've read most of his wor that has been published in australia. oh man i'm still laughing!
grumsica mcshnee (not verified) | Wed, 10/09/2002 - 00:00 | Permalink
I love the show Invader Zim. Before it came out I never really liked stations that aired on cable TV. Sure, it's was all cool and stuff when I watched some at a friends house, but I never had it in my own house until I moved to the town limits of oblivan Population: Yanks. But then I started watching Zim and I started thinking of things a little differently. Later on I got into fanfiction and that's how my character, Miz Zag, came into being. And I started using my planet Uvac, which before I watched Zim, only used as a counterworld for my paranormal pixie demons. You might say (actually you WOULD say) that Jhonen and Zim have inspired the more vivid bit of my writing career and brought out my more creative side. I am Miz Zag.
Miz (not verified) | Wed, 10/02/2002 - 00:00 | Permalink
i must say that Nick. has not had a cartoon worth watching since Ren and STimpy. but low and behold one day i'm mindless flipping channels and i see IZ. i was in aww that i have found the coolest cartoon ever. it was its own style, and had a smart/sick hummor to it. But no suprise that the jerks at Nick have desided to remove IZ, the only excuse that i can think of for such a stupid move is because they are a bunch of (insert naughty word here) idoits. however, to avoid the rath of zim lovers everywhere they should move the cartoon to mtv (since they own nick), where Zim can freely do as he pleases in his sick own way! lov ya johnen!!! :)
liz (not verified) | Sun, 09/22/2002 - 00:00 | Permalink
BEGINNING, ID LIKE TO STATE THAT NICKELODEON RAPES AND DESECRATES EVERYHTING GOOD. MY CHILDHOOD WAS REN AND STIMPY AND ROCKOS MODERN LIFE BASED....THEN IT WENT AWAY. THEY WERENT THE BEST SHOWS BUT A LITTLE SICK HUMO AND A LITTLE DISGUST GOES A LONG WAY FOR A KID.NOW..CANCELLING ZIM EH? BASTARDS!!!FEEL MY VOLUPTUOS CHESSE DOODLE!!!!!!I CANT EVEN LOSE MY MIND AN FURTHER BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE. ZIM BARELY EVEN HAS A CHANCE TO ENTERTAIN MY SICK LITTLE EXISTANCE. EVERY TIME I SEE IT LISTED...ASS UGLY MARTIANS COME ON. WHAT A RIPOFF.OK SORY I HAD TO COMPLAIN. ANYWAYS, IN OTHER NEWS. MR. VASQUEZ, ID LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT TO CREATE JOHNNY,SQUEE,ZIM,I FEEL SICK, ALL OF WHICH ARE QUITE THE ENTERTAINMENT TO THE FEW OF US LEFT WHICH HAVE THOUGHT PATTERNS OF THE INTELIGENT NATURE OUT HERE IN GEORGIA.I MYSELF AM AN ARTIST . NOT VERY RENOWNED OR ANYTHING BUT I TRY. IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR WORK SUCH AS YOURS FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW AND FINALLY ITS HERE. YES WE GEORGIA PEOPLE STAY IN THE DARK FOR SOME TIME.BUT ANYWHO, THANKS FOR THE INSPERATION. DONT LET OUR WONDERFUL NEIGHBORS , ''THE CRITICS AND GUIDANCES'' WIN. KEEP DRAWING AN DISTURBIBNG THE MINDS OF OUR NATION. GOOD LUCK.....BRANDON
brandon dudley (not verified) | Thu, 08/29/2002 - 00:00 | Permalink
I must say that never have i read an interveiw that was so indepth about the very origin of Zim. Jhonen's creativity and motivation comes from within, some thing hard to find now days. Especially the reoccuring theme of the mistreatment of others, which of course points to trama similar to what i went through through school. Feel free to E-mail me if your appriciate the complexity and professionalism of Zim. Hell, you can e-mail me for no damn reason at all if you want.
Gumbi (not verified) | Mon, 08/26/2002 - 00:00 | Permalink
AHHHH! I love Jhonen. I have never even seen him, except for his cameo in "invader zim" I wonder how he feels about the cancellation of his show. I certainly think that nickelodeon is a pain. They say that they are cancelling the show due do graphic violence, and then they go off and tell all of his adoring fans that they are gonna make him die in the last episode. The Jerks. Where do they get off? Jhonen has a great mind. He isn't like all the other cartoon creators out there. Jhonen thinks for himself, and he is creative, and Imaginative. He is so great. It sounds like he's been ripped off. If you read this Jhonen, I am sorry!!! Check out my Zim site. http://invaderbuz.tripod.com
Leah Vanderpool (not verified) | Thu, 08/08/2002 - 00:00 | Permalink
i really really really like your work.....it gives me something to do before i TRY falling asleep..:) so im wondering why did they cancel IZ?
Melissa Merino (not verified) | Wed, 07/17/2002 - 00:00 | Permalink
Jhonen has really influenced my artistic view on life. Johnny kinda made me think about life, and how I'm going to die some horrible death. There was struggle, and question. I've been drawing since I was five, and I've always dreamt of making my own comic one day. I don't know if I'll ever achieve that dream, but I intend to try.
Nick Shogun (not verified) | Sat, 07/06/2002 - 00:00 | Permalink

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