Speaking For Zimself: A Conversation With Jhonen Vasquez

Martin "Dr. Toon" Goodman invades the mind of Jhonen Vasquez, the creator of Invader Zim, to discuss Zim, Jhonen's ideas and inspirations, and the ups and downs of producing his first animated series.

Dr. T: As a comic book artist of some renown yourself, talk about some of the artists working on the show. Who -- or what -- has really impressed you?

JV: The character designer, Aaron Alexovitch -- who we found right out of school. He was going to Cal Arts, or some nightmare place, and he took the chance to work on the show. He was going to school so that he could break into some kind of animation business, and he was given the opportunity to work on Zim. He took it, and he worked out. Originally he was going to be a clean-up artist and he's made his way up to head character designer now. I can completely trust in what he's going to do. His style is close enough to mine to where he can actually improve upon the look of the show at this point. That's what it's all about, getting better and better. The color crew is great; those people really pick up on how interesting the color schemes are. They are phenomenal in what they do, and in the amount of time they do it. They get a look out of the show that just makes it stand out. It's a dark but colorful look, like I love. They can reproduce it by this point without me telling them anything; they just do it. It's getting to that point where I can leave the building and not lose my mind over what hideous things are happening to my show. It's cool because these people, they love working on the show. Aside from all the nightmarish hours they put into it, you can tell that they actually enjoy it now, as opposed to just having a job.

Dr. T: Would you try this again, Jhonen? Do you see yourself working on a future animated series?

JV: I would have to shoot myself several times in the face to achieve a certain level of brain damage to agree to it again. Which I was planning on doing, but not to get back into animation. I was just going to shoot myself because I could use the rest! I don't want to get stuck working on children's animation, I don't think. Well, maybe I don't think of it as "stuck," but there are so many other ideas I want to work on that are limited by what I can do on a kids' show. I don't want to just have fun with a creepy kids' show, I want to work on something genuinely creepy. I definitely have to, because I have so many ideas I have to get out of my head before I'm dead -- which could be anytime now.

Dr. T: Did you watch cartoons as a kid? What kind of animation did you watch?

JV: The usual garbage you just can't help but like when you're little, like He-Man. I remember when watching He-Man I thought, "Wow, this is garbage!" because they had, you know, five drawings that they used every episode. Stuff that I really, really loved, I didn't find myself being amazed by. It was more just enjoying it in a sort of cartoon haze, a "sitting there, eating your cereal, watching cartoons" kind of level. There wasn't really any appreciation for how amazing the stuff was until I saw stuff like Akira. I always hated Scooby Doo. I couldn't stand how brown everything was! It was like staring at feces for half an hour. Euuh! I think there's a good thing about the fact that I didn't take a lot of this with me, love for these cartoons I saw while growing up, because I don't put a lot of that into what I do now. I don't derive a lot of inspiration from growing up with this stuff. There's a lot of stuff out there that looks like new episodes of a really old show to me. One or two shows, that's OK, but there are a lot of shows on the American side of things that are so retro, so tired-looking to me. It would be cool to see something done on this side that breaks away from that. There's been a cool response to (Invader Zim) just on that level alone, in that people dig the different look of it.

Dr. T: Jhonen, you give a great interview. Is there anything you have never said in an interview that you want to say now? Let it rip!

JV: Daily, I drink about a garbage bag of baby's blood. How's that?

Dr. T: Uh...please don't let Squee hear about it!

Jhonen Vasquez, 26, currently resides in Los Angeles where he plots future horrors from the dark sanctuary of his drawing table. His comic books have been nominated for several Eisner Awards, are produced by Slave Labor Graphics and are kept continually in print to the delight of fans old and new. Jhonen actually prefers Pillsbury crescent rolls to baby's blood, but you won't find him eating Scooby Snacks anytime soon.

Martin "Dr. Toon" Goodman is a longtime student and fan of animation. He lives in Anderson, Indiana.







Comments


Hi, i Like your comics Squee and Johnny. I am not the kind of person to look through books for Boobs or violence i enjoy johnny because it resambles my life (not the killing part)i don't have many friends only 2 but i hold them dearly. one of the main reasons that i read it is because in a sense johnny is smart in a complex sort of way. Everyone that likes johnny dosn't read it they just look at some of the pictures and call it a day, they don't see the true poeatic tragity that is his life. I am trying to make my own comic but i can't get my drawing to be as fluent, could you please give me some tips for drawing. But i do have a question, how can you say happy noodle boy sucks??
Jonathon Shircliffe (not verified) | Thu, 01/15/2004 - 01:00 | Permalink
I love JV and all of his work. When I was yunger the only shows that would creep me out was anime, and now that doesn't give me the fix. Until I saw an Invader Zim episode about a year ago i got that alive feeling that someone would get when they feel emotions that seem long dead. I wish I could come up with creepy things that JV has sparked back into my already warped mind; however, I have my own psychotic twist to the stories i come up with in all my notebook and such. I WANT TO BE THE OTHER WRITER!! But i have a long way to go, I'm a junoir in high school and well on my way into the wierd world of reality.
Alicia Cox (not verified) | Wed, 12/17/2003 - 01:00 | Permalink
I do alot of anime and manga and ive got to say Johnen has inspierd me to new limits. all my friends love his work and so do i. im going to be publishing my first manga in 2007 and there is going to be alot of thanks to Johnen. keep up da good work dude ur aswem
Drew Cristantiello (not verified) | Tue, 11/18/2003 - 01:00 | Permalink
reading these interviews about mister johnen have really opened my thoughts to a new way of looking at things. And, for some strange and bazaar reason, JTHM and his other comics really help me currently, dealing with my own anti social problems. And though im not sure if its a good thing, it has definatly inspired me to go out and do something more, something that can show who i an. Especially my art. Thanks, i love your work. ALL OF IT. Its so great. asta luega
Helen Gradstein (not verified) | Wed, 07/30/2003 - 00:00 | Permalink
I think we should worship Johnen vazquez as our new god, because he knows just how to gross us out while entertaining us at the same time! OH MY GOD! He IS god!
Monnie C.M. (not verified) | Mon, 07/28/2003 - 00:00 | Permalink
JHONEN VASQUEZ IS THE SHIT I LOVE HIM ,ALL HIS WORK IS GREAT !!!
karla roman (not verified) | Fri, 07/18/2003 - 00:00 | Permalink
I love INVADER ZIM, JTHM, Squee, Filler Bunny, Happy Noodle Boy, I Feel Sick, and everthing Jhonen has ever done!
eon (not verified) | Fri, 07/11/2003 - 00:00 | Permalink
I HAVE to give props to Jhonen. I love his work, and it even inspired me to draw pictures of some of his characters. I didn't even know I had any artistic talent. It took an artistic genius like Jhonen to inspire me. Thank you for your influences! Keep it up. I look forward to seeing a full-length Jhonen film, that would make my day!
Tiffany Marney (not verified) | Sun, 05/18/2003 - 00:00 | Permalink
I have read JtHM and was amazed that something like that could actually be written. It was amazing and entertaining. I could not put the books down! I would petition for a show based on nny, happy noodle boy or squee. Jhonen Vasquez is a genius.
Bill Seeds (not verified) | Fri, 05/16/2003 - 00:00 | Permalink
hi,i love the interveiws,i could read them all day.I find it amazing that Jhonen seems to think alot like me.I love it.I wish he was my age and crap cause i never had one friend that thought i was actually sane or had same thoughts as me.>__
Shean Arashi (not verified) | Tue, 05/06/2003 - 00:00 | Permalink

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