Speaking For Zimself: A Conversation With Jhonen Vasquez

Martin "Dr. Toon" Goodman invades the mind of Jhonen Vasquez, the creator of Invader Zim, to discuss Zim, Jhonen's ideas and inspirations, and the ups and downs of producing his first animated series.

Dr. T: As a comic book artist of some renown yourself, talk about some of the artists working on the show. Who -- or what -- has really impressed you?

JV: The character designer, Aaron Alexovitch -- who we found right out of school. He was going to Cal Arts, or some nightmare place, and he took the chance to work on the show. He was going to school so that he could break into some kind of animation business, and he was given the opportunity to work on Zim. He took it, and he worked out. Originally he was going to be a clean-up artist and he's made his way up to head character designer now. I can completely trust in what he's going to do. His style is close enough to mine to where he can actually improve upon the look of the show at this point. That's what it's all about, getting better and better. The color crew is great; those people really pick up on how interesting the color schemes are. They are phenomenal in what they do, and in the amount of time they do it. They get a look out of the show that just makes it stand out. It's a dark but colorful look, like I love. They can reproduce it by this point without me telling them anything; they just do it. It's getting to that point where I can leave the building and not lose my mind over what hideous things are happening to my show. It's cool because these people, they love working on the show. Aside from all the nightmarish hours they put into it, you can tell that they actually enjoy it now, as opposed to just having a job.

Dr. T: Would you try this again, Jhonen? Do you see yourself working on a future animated series?

JV: I would have to shoot myself several times in the face to achieve a certain level of brain damage to agree to it again. Which I was planning on doing, but not to get back into animation. I was just going to shoot myself because I could use the rest! I don't want to get stuck working on children's animation, I don't think. Well, maybe I don't think of it as "stuck," but there are so many other ideas I want to work on that are limited by what I can do on a kids' show. I don't want to just have fun with a creepy kids' show, I want to work on something genuinely creepy. I definitely have to, because I have so many ideas I have to get out of my head before I'm dead -- which could be anytime now.

Dr. T: Did you watch cartoons as a kid? What kind of animation did you watch?

JV: The usual garbage you just can't help but like when you're little, like He-Man. I remember when watching He-Man I thought, "Wow, this is garbage!" because they had, you know, five drawings that they used every episode. Stuff that I really, really loved, I didn't find myself being amazed by. It was more just enjoying it in a sort of cartoon haze, a "sitting there, eating your cereal, watching cartoons" kind of level. There wasn't really any appreciation for how amazing the stuff was until I saw stuff like Akira. I always hated Scooby Doo. I couldn't stand how brown everything was! It was like staring at feces for half an hour. Euuh! I think there's a good thing about the fact that I didn't take a lot of this with me, love for these cartoons I saw while growing up, because I don't put a lot of that into what I do now. I don't derive a lot of inspiration from growing up with this stuff. There's a lot of stuff out there that looks like new episodes of a really old show to me. One or two shows, that's OK, but there are a lot of shows on the American side of things that are so retro, so tired-looking to me. It would be cool to see something done on this side that breaks away from that. There's been a cool response to (Invader Zim) just on that level alone, in that people dig the different look of it.

Dr. T: Jhonen, you give a great interview. Is there anything you have never said in an interview that you want to say now? Let it rip!

JV: Daily, I drink about a garbage bag of baby's blood. How's that?

Dr. T: Uh...please don't let Squee hear about it!

Jhonen Vasquez, 26, currently resides in Los Angeles where he plots future horrors from the dark sanctuary of his drawing table. His comic books have been nominated for several Eisner Awards, are produced by Slave Labor Graphics and are kept continually in print to the delight of fans old and new. Jhonen actually prefers Pillsbury crescent rolls to baby's blood, but you won't find him eating Scooby Snacks anytime soon.

Martin "Dr. Toon" Goodman is a longtime student and fan of animation. He lives in Anderson, Indiana.







Comments


Jhonen, If you were in front of me I wouldnt know if I should bow before you or blow my brains out to give uou inspiration. LOve, Robert M.
Robert Meadows (not verified) | Thu, 06/17/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink
Dearest Writer Jhonen Vasquez, I loved Johnny. I think you should make it into a T.V. show on whatever station would take it. I'd get cable just to see that show. What compelled you to create the Doughboys? Adoring{hope thats spelled right} Fan, Robert Meadows
Robert Meadows (not verified) | Thu, 06/17/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink
hey mike yeah mr nelson quit being such a a f***ing genious IDO NOT care if johnen is gay.I was curious.I still do not know if what music johnen likes I think from what I have pickred up I think Nine inch nail's and Aphex twin but im probably totaly wrong johnen if youre out there why dont yoo post a comment I realy wanna know.youre probably not going to ever read this but hell who care's and for all you smart people idont care about punctuation
count dracula (not verified) | Thu, 06/10/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink
Genius has never been restricted to a certain sexual preference. Male or female, gay or straight, Drag-queen or eskimo, genius like "Johnny the Homicidal Maniac" and "Squee" speak for themselves. If I ever have the honor of meeting Mr. Vasquez, I'll take special care not to bring up anything so idiotic as his personal preferences for dates. There would be so many more interesting things to talk about.
Mike Nelson (not verified) | Wed, 05/05/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink
I just read the first comment.Is Johnen gay? well any way love his work he rock's.Has anyone actually gotten a reply about what music he likes? if you know post a comment that would be sooper!
count dracula (not verified) | Mon, 05/03/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink
ummmmmmmmmmmm........i thought it was delighting and it made me feel comforting and tickle me in places i never thought i could get a tickle? yeah so in other words it was ok
Roza Rodriguez (not verified) | Tue, 04/20/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink
Ok, this is towards mr. "anime is crap". Okay, do you know nothing about jhonen? In one of his interviews he stated that he loved anime-trigun.Also the suicide girls interview showed that he was far from being gay. Also there is this street in colorado that is Vasquez blvd. and you say it Vas-kez, but if your white, then you say Vas-qwez, because he is mexican, and I think that is enough to base an opinion on. And By the way...I love you Jhonen, you are a genious. I think I spelt that wrong, but that means you are really smart, and you create good...stuff.
Nioki Chango (not verified) | Mon, 03/22/2004 - 01:00 | Permalink
Jhonen, what can I say? You are simply amazing. I luv You!!!!!
Megan (not verified) | Sun, 03/14/2004 - 01:00 | Permalink
This comment is more directed towards the comment that Ryan Thompson posted. I read the whole article and it didn't seem like they were tip toe-ing around anything. You may be right you may be wrong, but who cares. What does his sexual preference have to do with anything? The things that come out of JV's head are great! In a day and age where anime crap has taken over animation it's nice to see something that stand out from the rest.
Chris Johnson (not verified) | Wed, 03/10/2004 - 01:00 | Permalink
I think its interesting the interview tip-toed around the fact Jhonen is gay. He's open, but it never seems to get mentioned in any publications. :P
Ryan Thompson (not verified) | Mon, 02/02/2004 - 01:00 | Permalink

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