Speaking For Zimself: A Conversation With Jhonen Vasquez

Martin "Dr. Toon" Goodman invades the mind of Jhonen Vasquez, the creator of Invader Zim, to discuss Zim, Jhonen's ideas and inspirations, and the ups and downs of producing his first animated series.

Dr. T: As a comic book artist of some renown yourself, talk about some of the artists working on the show. Who -- or what -- has really impressed you?

JV: The character designer, Aaron Alexovitch -- who we found right out of school. He was going to Cal Arts, or some nightmare place, and he took the chance to work on the show. He was going to school so that he could break into some kind of animation business, and he was given the opportunity to work on Zim. He took it, and he worked out. Originally he was going to be a clean-up artist and he's made his way up to head character designer now. I can completely trust in what he's going to do. His style is close enough to mine to where he can actually improve upon the look of the show at this point. That's what it's all about, getting better and better. The color crew is great; those people really pick up on how interesting the color schemes are. They are phenomenal in what they do, and in the amount of time they do it. They get a look out of the show that just makes it stand out. It's a dark but colorful look, like I love. They can reproduce it by this point without me telling them anything; they just do it. It's getting to that point where I can leave the building and not lose my mind over what hideous things are happening to my show. It's cool because these people, they love working on the show. Aside from all the nightmarish hours they put into it, you can tell that they actually enjoy it now, as opposed to just having a job.

Dr. T: Would you try this again, Jhonen? Do you see yourself working on a future animated series?

JV: I would have to shoot myself several times in the face to achieve a certain level of brain damage to agree to it again. Which I was planning on doing, but not to get back into animation. I was just going to shoot myself because I could use the rest! I don't want to get stuck working on children's animation, I don't think. Well, maybe I don't think of it as "stuck," but there are so many other ideas I want to work on that are limited by what I can do on a kids' show. I don't want to just have fun with a creepy kids' show, I want to work on something genuinely creepy. I definitely have to, because I have so many ideas I have to get out of my head before I'm dead -- which could be anytime now.

Dr. T: Did you watch cartoons as a kid? What kind of animation did you watch?

JV: The usual garbage you just can't help but like when you're little, like He-Man. I remember when watching He-Man I thought, "Wow, this is garbage!" because they had, you know, five drawings that they used every episode. Stuff that I really, really loved, I didn't find myself being amazed by. It was more just enjoying it in a sort of cartoon haze, a "sitting there, eating your cereal, watching cartoons" kind of level. There wasn't really any appreciation for how amazing the stuff was until I saw stuff like Akira. I always hated Scooby Doo. I couldn't stand how brown everything was! It was like staring at feces for half an hour. Euuh! I think there's a good thing about the fact that I didn't take a lot of this with me, love for these cartoons I saw while growing up, because I don't put a lot of that into what I do now. I don't derive a lot of inspiration from growing up with this stuff. There's a lot of stuff out there that looks like new episodes of a really old show to me. One or two shows, that's OK, but there are a lot of shows on the American side of things that are so retro, so tired-looking to me. It would be cool to see something done on this side that breaks away from that. There's been a cool response to (Invader Zim) just on that level alone, in that people dig the different look of it.

Dr. T: Jhonen, you give a great interview. Is there anything you have never said in an interview that you want to say now? Let it rip!

JV: Daily, I drink about a garbage bag of baby's blood. How's that?

Dr. T: Uh...please don't let Squee hear about it!

Jhonen Vasquez, 26, currently resides in Los Angeles where he plots future horrors from the dark sanctuary of his drawing table. His comic books have been nominated for several Eisner Awards, are produced by Slave Labor Graphics and are kept continually in print to the delight of fans old and new. Jhonen actually prefers Pillsbury crescent rolls to baby's blood, but you won't find him eating Scooby Snacks anytime soon.

Martin "Dr. Toon" Goodman is a longtime student and fan of animation. He lives in Anderson, Indiana.







Comments


Jhonen sorry to assume of how you feel on this subject that i am about to talk about but.... To all of you Crazed people out that are all crazy and saying that Jhonen should be president or god or A local zoooo monkey (no one said that he is a monkey but i thought that would be funny) But anyway i am sure that he enjoys all the praise but he just does really good comics and is really funny. Jhonen i am sorry if i am wrong about you being god so please dont smight me with pooh. Thank you, Josh
Josh Rymniak (not verified) | Tue, 11/30/2004 - 01:00 | Permalink
Jhonen When i first read your meterial it was the bad art collection, and i was about nine years old. Thinks You and my friend that happens to be older then me and buys most of your work my mind has be currtpted just a little bit more then i was before. i am 15 now and my friend is like 17 or something and we have recently started a comic of our own...I will tell you about it even though you will not care HA i win. But before i start telling you about i just want you to know that i am not expecting you to like it or promote it or even read this message in the first place but anyway Its about two kids based on me and my friend and we are really lazy in real life and the comic, but like one idea that i have start our comic on was i always go over my friends house like on the weekends and stuff and he always falls asleep before i do, and when he does he has this little german stuffed dog that he has had for ever and he sleeps with it still. so i thought it would be mean if i took it away from him when he fell asleep and cut off his head but when i take it from him he wakes up soon and finds me in the basement in a corner with stuffing everywhere and me giggle madly. Cam (my friend)kind of snaps and goes on a rampage and destroys his home with me, his dog, cat, brother all lying around him in peices and he starts to giggle madly..... Well that was the outline bascicly of our first comic and the reason that i wrote this was becasue i was wondering if you had any advice for me and the comic the email adress that i put up top is Cams So feel free to send him like wierd stuff if you want.. later man keep up the discusting yet good work...
Josh Rymniak (not verified) | Tue, 11/30/2004 - 01:00 | Permalink
This is a message for Matthew L Arnold: Unless you are, at most, fourteen years old, your pretension is unforgivable. Come on, man, what's with all the inverted commas? "People"? "Fans"? It's unnecessary. You claim to have no interest in the details of Jhonen Vasquez's personal life, yet you make a point of including his middle initial in this statement. The arrogance with which you wrote your comment is so tiresome. You share an appreciation for this guy's work with many other people, so for chrissakes just share, rather than stroking your dangerous attitude and incendiary wit (note my sarcasm) with the eyes of good-natured readers of this article. Also, in response to your querie, the term 'fan' in this context in an abbreviation of 'fanatic' - it's a term commonly accepted as a part of this language and has little to do with oscillation. I feel its time to bow out gracefully, but your comment really pissed me off. So here, to add a colourful pettiness to my post, I should like to mention that your poor spelling and grammar takes away any resonance your words might have had. And while you sigh with a defiant contempt for the obsequiousness of your fellow posters, I wonder if you realise the transparency of your own grovelling. So in closing, I implore you - Get over yourself.
Lara Aste (not verified) | Mon, 11/08/2004 - 01:00 | Permalink
People suck, whenever they ask me what I want to be when I grow up my response is,"I want to be like Jhonen Vasquez, deal with it." Thanks for being so superior Jhonen!! May the Earth Worm Babies worship your head!!
Jessica Adams (not verified) | Sat, 10/23/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink
you are one of the best authers of all time squee jonny zim how do u come up with these charecters
alex wilson (not verified) | Thu, 10/21/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink
hell-o "people". I feel that you "humans" do not care about or understand the depth of Johnen Vasquez!What I mean by depth is that your puiny meat minds can not comprehend the truth behind all of his works. I really hate it when people call themselves "fans" of the works he bled out his soul.Can anyone give me the definition of the word fan? do not fear for I have the solution to your sad misfortuine, a fan is an inanimate object that ocilatates backand forth to keep the stale air that is around it circulated!Duh?!To be honest with you,I am not fan but only an appreicataive reader of great litatary works and JTHM is one of them.I am sorry if I do not make that mindless droning noise when I speak to you.I do not care about what JCV's lifestile concist of or what he chooses to do with his life!In short everyone is lame,so am I,the world is not a bad place,stay stupid,and all of you fans keep your stupid sweatey little middle schooler friends cool!!! Finaly, leave the man alone and stop bothering me with your dronig noises.... (your stranger) [Matthew L Arnold]
swift one (not verified) | Tue, 10/19/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink
Jhonen is a truely amazing dude.....we should all bow down to him......NOW!!!!!!!! 'cuz he's realy cool......yay!
Tessa Sanders (not verified) | Tue, 10/19/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink
Wow....Jhonen is truly amazing and so talented! He is really a fucking genious. See, when people say "who do you look up to?" and everyone says their parents and the president and stuff, i say "fuck you, i like jhonen vasquez!" Anyhow, i guess my point is he better keep doin what he's doin, cuz its keepin me happy!
Nneya Giannola (not verified) | Tue, 09/07/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink
thanks for the inspiration jhonen, if you happen to read this. your comic books get me through the day.
erin duffee (not verified) | Tue, 06/22/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink
As most of us obviously agree, Jhonen is a genius. A very busy genius who WILL NEVER READ THESE COMMENTS!!! Just thought I'd point that out. But there are lots of geniuses like Johnen who are no longer recognized because their stories don't come with pictures for the average 20th century American brain, which is made of pudding and Red dye number 40.He even mentioned one. Share the wealth of idol worship here...please.
Reverend Blind (not verified) | Sun, 06/20/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink

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