Speaking For Zimself: A Conversation With Jhonen Vasquez

Martin "Dr. Toon" Goodman invades the mind of Jhonen Vasquez, the creator of Invader Zim, to discuss Zim, Jhonen's ideas and inspirations, and the ups and downs of producing his first animated series.

Dr. T: When the series began, Jhonen, some of the things you had to adjust to were having to do more on the management rather than creative end and having other people bring their styles to your characters. Have you been able to find ways to become more creatively involved with the show this season and put more of your personal stamp on it?

JV: Even from the very beginning I despised all the managerial kind of stuff; can't stand it. I'd rather be sitting there in my room drawing. I'd rather be turning out the character designs. I still do a bunch of character designs, and I do a lot of background work. That first season, even though there was a lot a managerial stuff, it was also compounded with several other full-time jobs in character work. I'm head writer. I'm involved in storyboards and actually going and revising storyboards, and again, doing an obscene amount of character designs. Now all I'm trying to do is keep the amount of creative involvement I have had all this time, but ease off on the managerial side, because now there are people that have shown themselves to be people I can trust to take things over for me. Ultimately I'd like to be able to focus on the writing -- as head writer -- and deal with the overall direction. I do all the voice direction too, and I'd like to stay there. But approving every little background, every design, that's the stuff where I could definitely free a lot of time up and get back to what makes it fun. Which sort of, at this very moment, it is not. It's not as often as I'd like, the amount of actual enjoyment when I'm just sitting there drawing or giggling like a lunatic over some new idea.

Dr. T: Will you eventually be directing episodes yourself?

JV: I don't know. I already do a whole lot in terms of governing what the episode is going to be like; the way the characters act -- that's me, overseeing so much of that. Now the storyboard guys are getting so great that they do all this stuff without me telling them how to do it, but it's still so much fun when I sit down with the script and the board guys. I act out key scenes and I'm telling them, "In this moment, he moves exactly like this!" just to accent that joke. In a way, I am a huge voice in what you actually end up seeing in the episode. Steve Ressel is the animation director and he does a great job of translating all of that. I do so much on the show that I don't know if I need to take on another task.

Dr. T: Steve Ressel has a terrific background in adult animation. He directed on Duckman, God, the Devil, and Bob, and one of my old favorites, Stressed Eric. What has Steve been able to bring to your material?

JV: Well, the coolest thing about Steve is -- a lot of people want to come in on this sort of thing, and they come in from other shows. Some of them are more talented than others, some of them just amazingly talented, but they always want to have a lot more of a voice in my project and what I'm doing. Coming from comics where it's just all me, well, I understand that it's necessary to work with other people but it's also necessary for the show to come as much from my head as possible. Steve does a beautiful job of translating what's in my head into animation. That's the most important thing to me. He treats it so seriously. I say, "I want it to look like a movie; like you're looking at a scene from a movie, not like a flat shot from the Sunday funnies" -- he knows what a dramatic shot is and he knows what a dramatic scene is. I need that for this show because even though it's supposed to be funny, like I always say, the more dramatically it's handled, the funnier it is because it brings a level of absurdity to the joke.

Dr. T: How did you hook up with your writing team?

JV: Currently, we've got three writers. Myself, Rob (Hummel) and Eric (Trueheart). Rob I've known for years; he's a friend of mine and a writer. I'd worked with him on writing scripts on our own, for ourselves. It seemed like a perfect fit to bring him on because he knows what I go for. He knows what I like and what I don't like. He censors himself when he knows there's something I'm going to take out anyhow; he's that much in tune with what I'm going for. And Eric? Actually, we found him when we were going through hundreds of thousands of billions of scripts when we were looking for another writer. It was just a case of us seeing his work. He had done some Internet shorts and his stuff was funny! He had never worked in animation before and had never worked in anything like television before -- and that, I love. I love the fact that a lot of these guys have never worked on any other kind of cartoon, and I can see that they're not pulling from anything else. They're not being inspired by any other show they've worked on, and there's not another definite style coming into it. It's all new to me.

Dr. T: That's as original as you can get.

JV: Yeah, that's really important to me. Some of the most important people on the show, this is our first job. It's all people who haven't been encrusted with years and years of working on other things -- you know, the ones who "know the ropes" and know what you "can't" do -- they're not afraid to try it. Which is the coolest fucking thing about these people.







Comments


yay! JHONEN V. is my god and slways will b!
mitch lucas (not verified) | Sat, 05/03/2003 - 00:00 | Permalink
i love Jhonen Vasquez!!!!!!! He ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!! it is my destiny in life to MEET Him!!!!!!!!
julia bussinger (not verified) | Wed, 04/16/2003 - 00:00 | Permalink
Jhonen, thank you for brightening my gloomy, arduous days with your brilliant and slightly sadistic humor which keeps me rolling on the floor in violent fits of laughter. You are my role model. Will you marry me? *meow* ^_^
kitty beck (not verified) | Fri, 04/11/2003 - 00:00 | Permalink
I love Jhonen yo! I think Invader ZIm and Jhonny the homocidal Maniac is pure eye candy! I will probly never get tired of them!!!
Invader Freak (not verified) | Fri, 02/28/2003 - 01:00 | Permalink
Might I just reitorate what everybody has said so far?... I love Jhonen Vasquez! When I first say "Invador Zim" I said to myself "What is this?" It was one of the best shows I ever saw. Not Just for the animation, but the writing was unique and damn funny. Then after I raved about this show, my friends told me about his book series. I though I was going to die. The library at my school actually had the "Big Wonderful Book of Unspeakible Horrors" collection. I read that thing from cover to cover. Then my friend lent me his JTHM series. I thought I was going to cry. I read all seven in one night, which I don't recomend when your trying to get to sleep and have school the next day, but lets not get into that (man I'm a dork!) Anyway, I really love his work and highly recomend it to everyone who is remotely interested in "Zim"
Alexia Staniotes (not verified) | Sun, 02/09/2003 - 01:00 | Permalink
things I still want answered.... is the way Zim speaks how jhonen envisioned any of his other characters to speak, or was that part of the job he had no influence over? in either case, I always imagined happy noodle boy to sound somewhat like zim does, with varying levels of wierd screams and garbled silliness. another thing I also want to say, is that his style is truly one of a kind, and he's going to find himself a pioneer of a whole new genre of animation and art style, what, with all of his rabid followers, trying desperately to draw in the style which they so adore. I'm not suprised, however, that he liked akira, or any anime for that matter. his characters are highly stretched out, skinny and have large eyes, not to mention are VERY stylized and sharp. Anime tends to bring that same flavor with it. I feel sorry for Vasquez, because he seems to not enjoy his goth fan base, yet that's the largest base he had before Zim came out. If I had a bunch of lunatic goth people sending me fan letters every day, I'd be inclined to cry profusely like a little baby. He takes it all with a grain of salt and a sense of humor. bravo to him.
Ivy Bekket (not verified) | Tue, 01/14/2003 - 01:00 | Permalink
scooby-doo looks like scooby-poo.
arlene schag (not verified) | Sat, 12/14/2002 - 01:00 | Permalink
I LOVE JHONEN VASQEZ.....I´M A FANATIK ...I CANT WRITE IN ENGLISH BECAUSE I´M SPEAK IN SPANISH.....BUT I LOVE HIM AND HE IS THE BEST!
Francisca Zincker (not verified) | Sat, 12/07/2002 - 01:00 | Permalink
jhonen should be world ruler.
austin lilland (not verified) | Thu, 11/28/2002 - 01:00 | Permalink
I LOVE U JHONEN!!!!!!!!!!!
Reena Loire (not verified) | Mon, 11/25/2002 - 01:00 | Permalink

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