Speaking For Zimself: A Conversation With Jhonen Vasquez

Martin "Dr. Toon" Goodman invades the mind of Jhonen Vasquez, the creator of Invader Zim, to discuss Zim, Jhonen's ideas and inspirations, and the ups and downs of producing his first animated series.

Dr. T: When the series began, Jhonen, some of the things you had to adjust to were having to do more on the management rather than creative end and having other people bring their styles to your characters. Have you been able to find ways to become more creatively involved with the show this season and put more of your personal stamp on it?

JV: Even from the very beginning I despised all the managerial kind of stuff; can't stand it. I'd rather be sitting there in my room drawing. I'd rather be turning out the character designs. I still do a bunch of character designs, and I do a lot of background work. That first season, even though there was a lot a managerial stuff, it was also compounded with several other full-time jobs in character work. I'm head writer. I'm involved in storyboards and actually going and revising storyboards, and again, doing an obscene amount of character designs. Now all I'm trying to do is keep the amount of creative involvement I have had all this time, but ease off on the managerial side, because now there are people that have shown themselves to be people I can trust to take things over for me. Ultimately I'd like to be able to focus on the writing -- as head writer -- and deal with the overall direction. I do all the voice direction too, and I'd like to stay there. But approving every little background, every design, that's the stuff where I could definitely free a lot of time up and get back to what makes it fun. Which sort of, at this very moment, it is not. It's not as often as I'd like, the amount of actual enjoyment when I'm just sitting there drawing or giggling like a lunatic over some new idea.

Dr. T: Will you eventually be directing episodes yourself?

JV: I don't know. I already do a whole lot in terms of governing what the episode is going to be like; the way the characters act -- that's me, overseeing so much of that. Now the storyboard guys are getting so great that they do all this stuff without me telling them how to do it, but it's still so much fun when I sit down with the script and the board guys. I act out key scenes and I'm telling them, "In this moment, he moves exactly like this!" just to accent that joke. In a way, I am a huge voice in what you actually end up seeing in the episode. Steve Ressel is the animation director and he does a great job of translating all of that. I do so much on the show that I don't know if I need to take on another task.

Dr. T: Steve Ressel has a terrific background in adult animation. He directed on Duckman, God, the Devil, and Bob, and one of my old favorites, Stressed Eric. What has Steve been able to bring to your material?

JV: Well, the coolest thing about Steve is -- a lot of people want to come in on this sort of thing, and they come in from other shows. Some of them are more talented than others, some of them just amazingly talented, but they always want to have a lot more of a voice in my project and what I'm doing. Coming from comics where it's just all me, well, I understand that it's necessary to work with other people but it's also necessary for the show to come as much from my head as possible. Steve does a beautiful job of translating what's in my head into animation. That's the most important thing to me. He treats it so seriously. I say, "I want it to look like a movie; like you're looking at a scene from a movie, not like a flat shot from the Sunday funnies" -- he knows what a dramatic shot is and he knows what a dramatic scene is. I need that for this show because even though it's supposed to be funny, like I always say, the more dramatically it's handled, the funnier it is because it brings a level of absurdity to the joke.

Dr. T: How did you hook up with your writing team?

JV: Currently, we've got three writers. Myself, Rob (Hummel) and Eric (Trueheart). Rob I've known for years; he's a friend of mine and a writer. I'd worked with him on writing scripts on our own, for ourselves. It seemed like a perfect fit to bring him on because he knows what I go for. He knows what I like and what I don't like. He censors himself when he knows there's something I'm going to take out anyhow; he's that much in tune with what I'm going for. And Eric? Actually, we found him when we were going through hundreds of thousands of billions of scripts when we were looking for another writer. It was just a case of us seeing his work. He had done some Internet shorts and his stuff was funny! He had never worked in animation before and had never worked in anything like television before -- and that, I love. I love the fact that a lot of these guys have never worked on any other kind of cartoon, and I can see that they're not pulling from anything else. They're not being inspired by any other show they've worked on, and there's not another definite style coming into it. It's all new to me.

Dr. T: That's as original as you can get.

JV: Yeah, that's really important to me. Some of the most important people on the show, this is our first job. It's all people who haven't been encrusted with years and years of working on other things -- you know, the ones who "know the ropes" and know what you "can't" do -- they're not afraid to try it. Which is the coolest fucking thing about these people.







Comments


Hi, i Like your comics Squee and Johnny. I am not the kind of person to look through books for Boobs or violence i enjoy johnny because it resambles my life (not the killing part)i don't have many friends only 2 but i hold them dearly. one of the main reasons that i read it is because in a sense johnny is smart in a complex sort of way. Everyone that likes johnny dosn't read it they just look at some of the pictures and call it a day, they don't see the true poeatic tragity that is his life. I am trying to make my own comic but i can't get my drawing to be as fluent, could you please give me some tips for drawing. But i do have a question, how can you say happy noodle boy sucks??
Jonathon Shircliffe (not verified) | Thu, 01/15/2004 - 01:00 | Permalink
I love JV and all of his work. When I was yunger the only shows that would creep me out was anime, and now that doesn't give me the fix. Until I saw an Invader Zim episode about a year ago i got that alive feeling that someone would get when they feel emotions that seem long dead. I wish I could come up with creepy things that JV has sparked back into my already warped mind; however, I have my own psychotic twist to the stories i come up with in all my notebook and such. I WANT TO BE THE OTHER WRITER!! But i have a long way to go, I'm a junoir in high school and well on my way into the wierd world of reality.
Alicia Cox (not verified) | Wed, 12/17/2003 - 01:00 | Permalink
I do alot of anime and manga and ive got to say Johnen has inspierd me to new limits. all my friends love his work and so do i. im going to be publishing my first manga in 2007 and there is going to be alot of thanks to Johnen. keep up da good work dude ur aswem
Drew Cristantiello (not verified) | Tue, 11/18/2003 - 01:00 | Permalink
reading these interviews about mister johnen have really opened my thoughts to a new way of looking at things. And, for some strange and bazaar reason, JTHM and his other comics really help me currently, dealing with my own anti social problems. And though im not sure if its a good thing, it has definatly inspired me to go out and do something more, something that can show who i an. Especially my art. Thanks, i love your work. ALL OF IT. Its so great. asta luega
Helen Gradstein (not verified) | Wed, 07/30/2003 - 00:00 | Permalink
I think we should worship Johnen vazquez as our new god, because he knows just how to gross us out while entertaining us at the same time! OH MY GOD! He IS god!
Monnie C.M. (not verified) | Mon, 07/28/2003 - 00:00 | Permalink
JHONEN VASQUEZ IS THE SHIT I LOVE HIM ,ALL HIS WORK IS GREAT !!!
karla roman (not verified) | Fri, 07/18/2003 - 00:00 | Permalink
I love INVADER ZIM, JTHM, Squee, Filler Bunny, Happy Noodle Boy, I Feel Sick, and everthing Jhonen has ever done!
eon (not verified) | Fri, 07/11/2003 - 00:00 | Permalink
I HAVE to give props to Jhonen. I love his work, and it even inspired me to draw pictures of some of his characters. I didn't even know I had any artistic talent. It took an artistic genius like Jhonen to inspire me. Thank you for your influences! Keep it up. I look forward to seeing a full-length Jhonen film, that would make my day!
Tiffany Marney (not verified) | Sun, 05/18/2003 - 00:00 | Permalink
I have read JtHM and was amazed that something like that could actually be written. It was amazing and entertaining. I could not put the books down! I would petition for a show based on nny, happy noodle boy or squee. Jhonen Vasquez is a genius.
Bill Seeds (not verified) | Fri, 05/16/2003 - 00:00 | Permalink
hi,i love the interveiws,i could read them all day.I find it amazing that Jhonen seems to think alot like me.I love it.I wish he was my age and crap cause i never had one friend that thought i was actually sane or had same thoughts as me.>__
Shean Arashi (not verified) | Tue, 05/06/2003 - 00:00 | Permalink

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