Speaking For Zimself: A Conversation With Jhonen Vasquez

Martin "Dr. Toon" Goodman invades the mind of Jhonen Vasquez, the creator of Invader Zim, to discuss Zim, Jhonen's ideas and inspirations, and the ups and downs of producing his first animated series.

Dr. T: When the series began, Jhonen, some of the things you had to adjust to were having to do more on the management rather than creative end and having other people bring their styles to your characters. Have you been able to find ways to become more creatively involved with the show this season and put more of your personal stamp on it?

JV: Even from the very beginning I despised all the managerial kind of stuff; can't stand it. I'd rather be sitting there in my room drawing. I'd rather be turning out the character designs. I still do a bunch of character designs, and I do a lot of background work. That first season, even though there was a lot a managerial stuff, it was also compounded with several other full-time jobs in character work. I'm head writer. I'm involved in storyboards and actually going and revising storyboards, and again, doing an obscene amount of character designs. Now all I'm trying to do is keep the amount of creative involvement I have had all this time, but ease off on the managerial side, because now there are people that have shown themselves to be people I can trust to take things over for me. Ultimately I'd like to be able to focus on the writing -- as head writer -- and deal with the overall direction. I do all the voice direction too, and I'd like to stay there. But approving every little background, every design, that's the stuff where I could definitely free a lot of time up and get back to what makes it fun. Which sort of, at this very moment, it is not. It's not as often as I'd like, the amount of actual enjoyment when I'm just sitting there drawing or giggling like a lunatic over some new idea.

Dr. T: Will you eventually be directing episodes yourself?

JV: I don't know. I already do a whole lot in terms of governing what the episode is going to be like; the way the characters act -- that's me, overseeing so much of that. Now the storyboard guys are getting so great that they do all this stuff without me telling them how to do it, but it's still so much fun when I sit down with the script and the board guys. I act out key scenes and I'm telling them, "In this moment, he moves exactly like this!" just to accent that joke. In a way, I am a huge voice in what you actually end up seeing in the episode. Steve Ressel is the animation director and he does a great job of translating all of that. I do so much on the show that I don't know if I need to take on another task.

Dr. T: Steve Ressel has a terrific background in adult animation. He directed on Duckman, God, the Devil, and Bob, and one of my old favorites, Stressed Eric. What has Steve been able to bring to your material?

JV: Well, the coolest thing about Steve is -- a lot of people want to come in on this sort of thing, and they come in from other shows. Some of them are more talented than others, some of them just amazingly talented, but they always want to have a lot more of a voice in my project and what I'm doing. Coming from comics where it's just all me, well, I understand that it's necessary to work with other people but it's also necessary for the show to come as much from my head as possible. Steve does a beautiful job of translating what's in my head into animation. That's the most important thing to me. He treats it so seriously. I say, "I want it to look like a movie; like you're looking at a scene from a movie, not like a flat shot from the Sunday funnies" -- he knows what a dramatic shot is and he knows what a dramatic scene is. I need that for this show because even though it's supposed to be funny, like I always say, the more dramatically it's handled, the funnier it is because it brings a level of absurdity to the joke.

Dr. T: How did you hook up with your writing team?

JV: Currently, we've got three writers. Myself, Rob (Hummel) and Eric (Trueheart). Rob I've known for years; he's a friend of mine and a writer. I'd worked with him on writing scripts on our own, for ourselves. It seemed like a perfect fit to bring him on because he knows what I go for. He knows what I like and what I don't like. He censors himself when he knows there's something I'm going to take out anyhow; he's that much in tune with what I'm going for. And Eric? Actually, we found him when we were going through hundreds of thousands of billions of scripts when we were looking for another writer. It was just a case of us seeing his work. He had done some Internet shorts and his stuff was funny! He had never worked in animation before and had never worked in anything like television before -- and that, I love. I love the fact that a lot of these guys have never worked on any other kind of cartoon, and I can see that they're not pulling from anything else. They're not being inspired by any other show they've worked on, and there's not another definite style coming into it. It's all new to me.

Dr. T: That's as original as you can get.

JV: Yeah, that's really important to me. Some of the most important people on the show, this is our first job. It's all people who haven't been encrusted with years and years of working on other things -- you know, the ones who "know the ropes" and know what you "can't" do -- they're not afraid to try it. Which is the coolest fucking thing about these people.







Comments


Jhonen sorry to assume of how you feel on this subject that i am about to talk about but.... To all of you Crazed people out that are all crazy and saying that Jhonen should be president or god or A local zoooo monkey (no one said that he is a monkey but i thought that would be funny) But anyway i am sure that he enjoys all the praise but he just does really good comics and is really funny. Jhonen i am sorry if i am wrong about you being god so please dont smight me with pooh. Thank you, Josh
Josh Rymniak (not verified) | Tue, 11/30/2004 - 01:00 | Permalink
Jhonen When i first read your meterial it was the bad art collection, and i was about nine years old. Thinks You and my friend that happens to be older then me and buys most of your work my mind has be currtpted just a little bit more then i was before. i am 15 now and my friend is like 17 or something and we have recently started a comic of our own...I will tell you about it even though you will not care HA i win. But before i start telling you about i just want you to know that i am not expecting you to like it or promote it or even read this message in the first place but anyway Its about two kids based on me and my friend and we are really lazy in real life and the comic, but like one idea that i have start our comic on was i always go over my friends house like on the weekends and stuff and he always falls asleep before i do, and when he does he has this little german stuffed dog that he has had for ever and he sleeps with it still. so i thought it would be mean if i took it away from him when he fell asleep and cut off his head but when i take it from him he wakes up soon and finds me in the basement in a corner with stuffing everywhere and me giggle madly. Cam (my friend)kind of snaps and goes on a rampage and destroys his home with me, his dog, cat, brother all lying around him in peices and he starts to giggle madly..... Well that was the outline bascicly of our first comic and the reason that i wrote this was becasue i was wondering if you had any advice for me and the comic the email adress that i put up top is Cams So feel free to send him like wierd stuff if you want.. later man keep up the discusting yet good work...
Josh Rymniak (not verified) | Tue, 11/30/2004 - 01:00 | Permalink
This is a message for Matthew L Arnold: Unless you are, at most, fourteen years old, your pretension is unforgivable. Come on, man, what's with all the inverted commas? "People"? "Fans"? It's unnecessary. You claim to have no interest in the details of Jhonen Vasquez's personal life, yet you make a point of including his middle initial in this statement. The arrogance with which you wrote your comment is so tiresome. You share an appreciation for this guy's work with many other people, so for chrissakes just share, rather than stroking your dangerous attitude and incendiary wit (note my sarcasm) with the eyes of good-natured readers of this article. Also, in response to your querie, the term 'fan' in this context in an abbreviation of 'fanatic' - it's a term commonly accepted as a part of this language and has little to do with oscillation. I feel its time to bow out gracefully, but your comment really pissed me off. So here, to add a colourful pettiness to my post, I should like to mention that your poor spelling and grammar takes away any resonance your words might have had. And while you sigh with a defiant contempt for the obsequiousness of your fellow posters, I wonder if you realise the transparency of your own grovelling. So in closing, I implore you - Get over yourself.
Lara Aste (not verified) | Mon, 11/08/2004 - 01:00 | Permalink
People suck, whenever they ask me what I want to be when I grow up my response is,"I want to be like Jhonen Vasquez, deal with it." Thanks for being so superior Jhonen!! May the Earth Worm Babies worship your head!!
Jessica Adams (not verified) | Sat, 10/23/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink
you are one of the best authers of all time squee jonny zim how do u come up with these charecters
alex wilson (not verified) | Thu, 10/21/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink
hell-o "people". I feel that you "humans" do not care about or understand the depth of Johnen Vasquez!What I mean by depth is that your puiny meat minds can not comprehend the truth behind all of his works. I really hate it when people call themselves "fans" of the works he bled out his soul.Can anyone give me the definition of the word fan? do not fear for I have the solution to your sad misfortuine, a fan is an inanimate object that ocilatates backand forth to keep the stale air that is around it circulated!Duh?!To be honest with you,I am not fan but only an appreicataive reader of great litatary works and JTHM is one of them.I am sorry if I do not make that mindless droning noise when I speak to you.I do not care about what JCV's lifestile concist of or what he chooses to do with his life!In short everyone is lame,so am I,the world is not a bad place,stay stupid,and all of you fans keep your stupid sweatey little middle schooler friends cool!!! Finaly, leave the man alone and stop bothering me with your dronig noises.... (your stranger) [Matthew L Arnold]
swift one (not verified) | Tue, 10/19/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink
Jhonen is a truely amazing dude.....we should all bow down to him......NOW!!!!!!!! 'cuz he's realy cool......yay!
Tessa Sanders (not verified) | Tue, 10/19/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink
Wow....Jhonen is truly amazing and so talented! He is really a fucking genious. See, when people say "who do you look up to?" and everyone says their parents and the president and stuff, i say "fuck you, i like jhonen vasquez!" Anyhow, i guess my point is he better keep doin what he's doin, cuz its keepin me happy!
Nneya Giannola (not verified) | Tue, 09/07/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink
thanks for the inspiration jhonen, if you happen to read this. your comic books get me through the day.
erin duffee (not verified) | Tue, 06/22/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink
As most of us obviously agree, Jhonen is a genius. A very busy genius who WILL NEVER READ THESE COMMENTS!!! Just thought I'd point that out. But there are lots of geniuses like Johnen who are no longer recognized because their stories don't come with pictures for the average 20th century American brain, which is made of pudding and Red dye number 40.He even mentioned one. Share the wealth of idol worship here...please.
Reverend Blind (not verified) | Sun, 06/20/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink

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