Speaking For Zimself: A Conversation With Jhonen Vasquez

Martin "Dr. Toon" Goodman invades the mind of Jhonen Vasquez, the creator of Invader Zim, to discuss Zim, Jhonen's ideas and inspirations, and the ups and downs of producing his first animated series.

Dr. T: When the series began, Jhonen, some of the things you had to adjust to were having to do more on the management rather than creative end and having other people bring their styles to your characters. Have you been able to find ways to become more creatively involved with the show this season and put more of your personal stamp on it?

JV: Even from the very beginning I despised all the managerial kind of stuff; can't stand it. I'd rather be sitting there in my room drawing. I'd rather be turning out the character designs. I still do a bunch of character designs, and I do a lot of background work. That first season, even though there was a lot a managerial stuff, it was also compounded with several other full-time jobs in character work. I'm head writer. I'm involved in storyboards and actually going and revising storyboards, and again, doing an obscene amount of character designs. Now all I'm trying to do is keep the amount of creative involvement I have had all this time, but ease off on the managerial side, because now there are people that have shown themselves to be people I can trust to take things over for me. Ultimately I'd like to be able to focus on the writing -- as head writer -- and deal with the overall direction. I do all the voice direction too, and I'd like to stay there. But approving every little background, every design, that's the stuff where I could definitely free a lot of time up and get back to what makes it fun. Which sort of, at this very moment, it is not. It's not as often as I'd like, the amount of actual enjoyment when I'm just sitting there drawing or giggling like a lunatic over some new idea.

Dr. T: Will you eventually be directing episodes yourself?

JV: I don't know. I already do a whole lot in terms of governing what the episode is going to be like; the way the characters act -- that's me, overseeing so much of that. Now the storyboard guys are getting so great that they do all this stuff without me telling them how to do it, but it's still so much fun when I sit down with the script and the board guys. I act out key scenes and I'm telling them, "In this moment, he moves exactly like this!" just to accent that joke. In a way, I am a huge voice in what you actually end up seeing in the episode. Steve Ressel is the animation director and he does a great job of translating all of that. I do so much on the show that I don't know if I need to take on another task.

Dr. T: Steve Ressel has a terrific background in adult animation. He directed on Duckman, God, the Devil, and Bob, and one of my old favorites, Stressed Eric. What has Steve been able to bring to your material?

JV: Well, the coolest thing about Steve is -- a lot of people want to come in on this sort of thing, and they come in from other shows. Some of them are more talented than others, some of them just amazingly talented, but they always want to have a lot more of a voice in my project and what I'm doing. Coming from comics where it's just all me, well, I understand that it's necessary to work with other people but it's also necessary for the show to come as much from my head as possible. Steve does a beautiful job of translating what's in my head into animation. That's the most important thing to me. He treats it so seriously. I say, "I want it to look like a movie; like you're looking at a scene from a movie, not like a flat shot from the Sunday funnies" -- he knows what a dramatic shot is and he knows what a dramatic scene is. I need that for this show because even though it's supposed to be funny, like I always say, the more dramatically it's handled, the funnier it is because it brings a level of absurdity to the joke.

Dr. T: How did you hook up with your writing team?

JV: Currently, we've got three writers. Myself, Rob (Hummel) and Eric (Trueheart). Rob I've known for years; he's a friend of mine and a writer. I'd worked with him on writing scripts on our own, for ourselves. It seemed like a perfect fit to bring him on because he knows what I go for. He knows what I like and what I don't like. He censors himself when he knows there's something I'm going to take out anyhow; he's that much in tune with what I'm going for. And Eric? Actually, we found him when we were going through hundreds of thousands of billions of scripts when we were looking for another writer. It was just a case of us seeing his work. He had done some Internet shorts and his stuff was funny! He had never worked in animation before and had never worked in anything like television before -- and that, I love. I love the fact that a lot of these guys have never worked on any other kind of cartoon, and I can see that they're not pulling from anything else. They're not being inspired by any other show they've worked on, and there's not another definite style coming into it. It's all new to me.

Dr. T: That's as original as you can get.

JV: Yeah, that's really important to me. Some of the most important people on the show, this is our first job. It's all people who haven't been encrusted with years and years of working on other things -- you know, the ones who "know the ropes" and know what you "can't" do -- they're not afraid to try it. Which is the coolest fucking thing about these people.







Comments


Woah.Im very delayed here (try a good couple of years) Anyway. I have a canvas sitting in my lounge with a pair of eyes drawn on it.Its meant to be a portrait of a cyber goth,but I cant bring myself to finish it.Or rather couldn't.I read I Feel Sick,and it helped me regain some of my inspiration.I might actually finish the portrait now.Thank you Jhonen.

Kazzas.Edge (not verified) | Mon, 11/09/2009 - 06:52 | Permalink

Que vuelva invasor Zim por favor!!! Terminen de completar la serie, este dibujo tiene mas seguidores ahora en el 2009 que cuando era transmitido en el 2001-2004. Viva ZIM!!!

Anonymous (not verified) | Sun, 10/18/2009 - 23:01 | Permalink
I greatly admire Jhonen Vasquez, not just because he is a genius, but he is so fucking hot too. I've been reading his comics for years now, and I still love them as much as the first time I read them. I'm proud to call myself Jhonen's fan, and if they start a church of Jhonenism, sign me up.
Karen Stanford (not verified) | Mon, 07/17/2006 - 00:00 | Permalink
crazy psycos rock
Jeremy Bradley (not verified) | Sat, 07/09/2005 - 00:00 | Permalink
You are all made of cheese! also JV is an amazing artist. the intense detail of the work is a good example of how comics can be Art to. ( I leave it up to you to figure out if that is good or bad)
Fvza99 (not verified) | Mon, 04/18/2005 - 00:00 | Permalink
Awesome!Yes, I am sure no one will read tnis, but yet i must comment on how i feel about this interview, art work and other usless stuff that i just happen to stummmble upon( Jezz i cant spell) But any who i enjoyed reading this, gave me that warm and fuzzy feeling inside and I'd love to read more interview. I would love to see a interview on JTHM. But oh well you dont give a shart about what I want. ( No one does whaaaa) Just wanted to say thank you to J V for giving me something to look foward too when i get home, somethikng that I can read and or watch when life is just ohh so stinky. so thank you. Ohh yes, that box set of Zim, I would buy that and whatch it over and over again.Well, i must go skin a cow so bye for now
nameless senor (not verified) | Sun, 03/27/2005 - 01:00 | Permalink
Jhonen is an awesome cartoonist. Where he gets his ideas, I don't know(if he's like me it involves caffine). In a way I am like him, but I am completely different. Jhonen, one question, how the heck did you get your comics published? I'm too afriad they'll lose it and I never here from them if I send it. Darn you postal workers! Er.... in case the government reads this I did not say that. I LOVE YOU, US MAIL! I love you too Jhonen. XD
Sarah P. (not verified) | Mon, 03/21/2005 - 01:00 | Permalink
I think that you, Jhonen are the greatest comic book artist ever! I love your style, i draw like that, too. I draw comics that are sorta similar to yours. I hope that's ok, how do you draw like that? what tools do you to draw with? I am trying to get my comics published and oh my god, the worm babies in my head are hatching!! AAAHHH!! GAH!! OWW!! GEE!! SQQUEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! What comics are you working on now? Good luck fighting pig demons, Nick s
Nick Stefanovic (not verified) | Mon, 02/21/2005 - 01:00 | Permalink
I was first introduced to Johnny and Squee at a young impressionable age, and i got to tell you, it had a MAJOR affect on my life. I love all of jhonen's work, i collect the whole f-in series of everything he has published. I guess this is my way of showing my appreciation, and thanking him for following through with his dream of making Johnny the famous lil bastard maniac he is... i will never forget Johnny the suicidal maniac as well... thanx to jhonen, i am walking around with a knife, thinking up ways of murder and maniacal manslaughter to turn into my own comic in his shadow...i hope to one day meet jhonen and express my gratitue face to face...
Johnny Maniac (not verified) | Thu, 12/23/2004 - 01:00 | Permalink
Yes I love Jhonen and ALL of his work. I, am an inspiring comic/animation artist and I just love his drawing technique. Me and my friends love JTHM, and Invader Zim, everyone thinks that we're insaine. We think that Jhonen should make a "show" of JTHM, well sorta, but not put it on tv. He could just sell them out of stores. That way, he can have all of the great cursing and violence he wants (and we want) without the restriction of the TV. Well, thats what my friends and me think. Without Jhonen and his work, I would be a insaine girl who sits in her room, making comics.
Lynsea Something (not verified) | Mon, 12/06/2004 - 01:00 | Permalink

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