From Matisse to McGuire: An Interview with Debra Solomon

Chris Robinson interviews indie animator Debra Solomon, the creator of the animated Lizzie McGuire persona, about finding a way to do what you want and make money doing it.
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Debra Solomon (left) made the transition from independent filmmaker to mainstream success with Lizzie McGuire. Courtesy of Disney.

Sometimes you gotta pay the bills. Well, actually, you've ALWAYS gotta pay the bills. Most of the time that necessitates leaving behind your unprofitable passions to slug away at a mindless job for the benefit of everyone but you and me. But if you're lucky, you sometimes manage to find a way to do what you want and make money doing it. Take New York animator and illustrator, Debra Solomon. After working as a successful illustrator, she gave it up to make her own, personal animation films. She was a hit from the start. Her films, Mrs. Matisse and Everybody’s Pregnant, respectively, turned the topics of adultery and infertility into light-hearted comedy, and were accepted and acclaimed by film festivals around the world.

This was all fine and dandy, but as most independent animators know, fame is rarely stalked by fortune. In fact, most of the time fame leaves you broke. To resuscitate the family bank account, Solomon turned her attention to television animation. After making a pilot (Nikki) and The Private Eye Princess special, both for Cartoon Network, she landed a job with a new live-action Disney Channel show called Lizzie McGuire. The show follows the life of a teenage girl, Lizzie McGuire, who is confronted with an assortment of real life issues (e.g., self-respect, buying your first bra, loyalty etc.) facing pre-adults.

Before you know it, Lizzie McGuire is the hottest thing in teen culture, and millions are seeing the short animated Lizzie monologues that Solomon has created for each episode. To top things off, the show was recently turned into the very successful Lizzie McGuire Movie.

But as my old pal, Robert Pollard said, "As we go up, we go down." Just as Lizzie McGuire hit the top of the pops, the TV show was cancelled and talks of a second Lizzie movie, along with a possible ABC pick-up, were put on hold when a May 23, 2003 Los Angeles Times article announced that actress Hilary Duff (who plays Lizzie) and Disney had divorced.

Chris Robinson recently spoke with Debra Solomon about her experience working on Lizzie McGuire, what it meant for an independent animator, and where she goes from here.

Chris Robinson: How did you land, what is, for an indie animator, a pretty sweet gig?

Debra Solomon: I had worked on a pilot called Nikki for Cartoon Network. It didn't end up going forward, but in that business equation I picked up a manager (Tracy Kramer). Tracy was a big fan of my work and he sent my reel to Adam Bonnett at the Disney Channel. Adam actually came to my house in New York and I showed him my films. We sat and talked, and a few months later, he started working with Stan Rogow (Lizzie producer). They both loved Nikki and we starting work on Lizzie McGuire. Nikki was about an 11- or 12-year-old girl coming into her own and experiencing all the stuff Lizzie did. It was sort of my version of Lizzie. They really liked the emotionality of what I did with Nikki

CR: …And you ended up fusing Nikki and Lizzie together in a sense.

DS: Right. Stan came to me. He said that they were looking for a talking head in the corner of the screen. I didn't want to do that. I didn't think that that was what animation was about. It was so much more inventive. And he just said, "Ok, give me full-bore Debby.’ And he let me do whatever I wanted.







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i draw my own animation and write the scripts the storylines and colouring, and every body who sees it says am very good and i should go for it but am africa but am in ireland where what i do and love doing doesn't stand a chance of progress. i want to make it in animation, if there is any one that can help me, plz email me plz and we can talk more.
iyk uzoma (not verified) | Tue, 07/19/2005 - 00:00 | Permalink
interesting interview-pimp....but i still do not understand why creatives like solomon fail to see the whole reality-situations of big animation-creative ....'exploitation'? folks like solomon-who are fortunate- succesful(wins an N Y indie award)enough to get the attention of the 'big boyz'-then gets 'hired'-then gets 'let-go', then winds-up spending 80 grand on her concept-from earnings,then says "i really don't know how to manage my shorts"-finally losing her 'shorts'.could she have made enough from her concepts in comic books-first? or did the big toon goons 'distract ' her from a really succesful comic book venture? as we all know , succesful comic book concepts "GET LICENSED" for movie productions.and these succesful creators did not fall for the "hire-me" gimmick, by studios.did this very talented creator get 'side-tracked'-then go down a 'blind alley'? and did the cheap-ass big toon goons 'burn' her out on (their) projects-not herz? there must be a better system.... herez a question to the animation 'industry'; where ARE the 'GRANTS"..to these 'winners' of 'indie' contests??? solomon worked for dizney, and did eizner ever impart(any grant monies) with the more than 100 million he recieved in various 'bonuses' from dizny? as i read these interviews, i continually see creatives being led down the path of dead ends. does big animation do this , in order to satisfy their 'control' of any new and winning 'indie' winners?is this (their) way of keeping this kind of talent from 'crossing over' into complete control of their concepts? pimp,this interview seems almost like a 'subtle satire' of what happens to 'indie' winners who are nieve enough to fall into traps -offering tidbits of 'saleried' thrills- such as 'project development'...then gets the 'we no longer need your services-the project has been canceled' rejection,thus leaving the 'indie winning creative' back to square one. sadly,even you-pimp...have been given the 'boot' by the abrupt ending of the ottowa festival,with out much explanation.did the ottowa 'money folks' decide (like i did?)that festivals are a 'dead end' for animators? dawk
dale mc farlane (not verified) | Tue, 07/01/2003 - 00:00 | Permalink

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