The Fred Seibert Interview — Part 1

In the first of a two-part interview, Joe Strike reveals how Fred Seibert came to revive television animation in the 1990s, helping Hanna-Barbera and Nickelodeon give birth to a slew of original hits.
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Then I went and became the president of Hanna-Barbera when we closed Fred/Alan. That started me in animation.

JS: How did you come by that job?

FS: While I had Fred/Alan, the then marketing head of Hanna-Barbera approached us about doing some work for some new primetime series they were developing. I had no interest in talking with him about his new series. I had learned that doing advertising for television shows was a lousy business, so I really had no interest in that.

However, two of my three favorite cartoon characters of all time were Hanna-Barbera characters: Huckleberry Hound and The Flintstones.

JS: Who’s number three?

FS: Bugs Bunny. Anyway, I spent the whole meeting quizzing him about the business behind the classic Hanna-Barbera characters — which then was a complete mess. The company was owned at the time by Great American Television and it was a total gang-bang: one person controlled distribution rights, another controlled the characters and the studio had nothing to do with the library — and the guy who ran the studio clearly hated the library.

I walked away with this little blueprint in my head, and I marched right into my clients at Nickelodeon. I told them ‘there is an opportunity we can drive a train through.’ I sketched out a little scenario where I believed Nickelodeon could get Hanna-Barbera library properties for zero money instead of millions of dollars — and participate in a merchandising upside if we did things right. The Nickelodeon people told me ‘we can’t do that.’

I said, "No, no really," and I showed them how to do it. Reluctantly or skeptically they went to negotiate. They said ‘we’ll never get it for nothing’ and I said, ‘well you go in asking for nothing, you’ll get it for half of nothing.’ So they went in using my script and they got seven properties — The Jetsons, Yogi, a bunch of things — for half, and they saved $7 million.

One night I was having dinner with this guy from Turner Broadcasting and he said "What’s that watch?" We were in The Four Seasons where everyone is dressed fancy, and I’m wearing a Hanna-Barbera wristwatch with Fred Flintstone and Scooby and Yogi and Huckleberry Hound on the dial. I told him about the deal I had helped Nickelodeon put together. He said "I didn’t know you knew how to do that," and I said, "Well, now you know."

Fast-forward 18 months later: Turner buys Hanna-Barbera and puts the guy I had dinner with — Scott Sassa — in charge of the studio. Up to that point Scott had had only one conversation with any human being about Hanna-Barbera, and that was with me. He called me one morning and said, "Hey why don’t you come out to L.A. and run Hanna-Barbera for us?’ I looked at my watch — I was wearing the Hanna-Barbera watch again. It was 10:30 and I said "Sure, how about three months from now?" So Alan and I closed our company and that was that.

JS: What was Hanna-Barbera like at the time?

FS: A disaster. At the time I got there, in 1992, they no longer blanketed Saturday morning, and they hadn’t had a hit since The Smurfs in 1983.







Comments


What a great and informative article! Talk about an inside scoop! It just goes to show that a handful of people are responsible for changing the paradigm of broadcast corporations... for better or for worse. All students of (children's) media studies should be required to read this article. Well done!
Gerard Raiti (not verified) | Wed, 07/16/2003 - 00:00 | Permalink

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