“When Cartoons Were Cartoony:” John Kricfalusi Presents

Dr. Toon interviews John Kricfalusi about his favorite cartoons, which have inspired the Ren & Stimpy creator's forthcoming screening series at the Egyptian Theater in Hollywood, California.
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Clampett's cartoons heighten your senses — they wake you up and keep you on the edge of your seat because everything is going on at once and the characters are so alive. In other director's cartoons — even good ones — you feel the directors pushing the characters around. You really felt that in Chuck Jones' films, especially the ones about Elmer, Bugs and Daffy. Take that Rabbit Fire trilogy. In those cartoons Bugs Bunny always wins. But he doesn't do a thing to deserve winning. He stands there and holds up signs.

These "pronoun trouble" jokes were done in other cartoons long before Rabbit Fire. They don't work. And Daffy Duck is not a stupid character. That stuff might work with Elmer but not with Daffy. So really, it's cheating. There's no reason that Daffy should lose except that the writer and director dictate it. Bugs Bunny is the one who should get his face blown off, and the only reason everybody buys that Bugs Bunny wins is because they remember the earlier cartoons where Bugs had a personality and we saw him regularly defeat other characters.

Bugs isn't the same in a Clampett cartoon. In the early films he's a real character and you can feel his personality coming out of him, not being dictated by the director. He's really fun, has sort of a teenage wiseass personality and picks on other characters. The point I'm making is, the characters in Clampett's cartoons are more alive than in Jones; they seem like real creatures, filled with the spark and the joy of life. So — here's my choice of Clampett cartoons to run. Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs (1943) — but they're not going to let me. I have no idea why. I don't know why you can watch Gone With The Wind on TV every year — the same company owns them - you can show that film but you can't show Coal Black, which many people believe is the greatest cartoon ever made.

DT: The speed of that cartoon is dazzling. It's unbelievable all the business Clampett stuffed into that cartoon in the amount of time he had.

JK: Well, Clampett was the most controlled director of all time. He could get five times the information into a cartoon than anyone else could. Then we're going to run Gruesome Twosome (1945), the best Tweety Bird cartoon. A lot of people don't know that Tweety was once cool. In the Clampett cartoons he was totally cool. First of all, he's an actual baby bird — and he's sadistic. Lightheartedly sadistic, but he really enjoys inflicting pain.

Gruesome Twosome is one of the most violent cartoons ever made; not because of the violent gags that happen, but the execution of them — they look like they really hurt, and the energy is amazing. Here's where Clampett really sucks you in: he starts a cartoon with this happy-go-lucky music and you think it's going to be a childlike adventure- then all this sick stuff starts happening! Only Clampett could get away with this combination of "cute" and "sick" because the way he did it was so damn appealing.

Tortoise Wins By a Hare is next, one of my favorite Clampett cartoons. I picked it because it's a perfect example of how Clampett understood the characters better than anyone else. Most people think that characters should have only one trait. Bugs Bunny is a winner, period. Clampett's characters have more levels than that. Sure, Bugs is known as a winner. Now, somebody who is used to winning in real life is not going to be a good loser. So in Clampett's cartoons when Bugs loses he goes completely insane and he can't stand it.

At the beginning of Tortoise Bugs is watching the previous Tex Avery cartoon (Tortoise Beats Hare) where he loses the race against the tortoise. He flings his carrot and goes into the greatest tirade in animation. Just watch Rod Scribner's animation of Bugs losing his cool and yelling, "He can't do that! I'm a natural-born speed merchant!"

Then we'll run one of the all-time best, The Great Piggy Bank Robbery (1946). This is the cartoon where I discovered Bob Clampett. I was 23 years old, going to Sheridan College in Toronto. On weekends I would go into town where Reg Hartt used to run old cartoons at his theater. I might have seen Clampett cartoons on TV as a kid earlier but syndication cartoons were a mishmash of scratched-up 16mm prints. When I saw The Great Piggy Bank Robbery I was just floored. Up until then Chuck Jones had been my hero.







Comments


oYHKmEw (not verified) | Sun, 08/28/2011 - 22:06 | Permalink
John Kricfalusi wrote a tremendous tribute to me in one of your issues. I live in Greece now where someone had sent it to me. John, thanks! I'm still involved with color, doing architectural designing for Hilton hotels and for cruiseship. Curiously enough, a client said "Nobody uses color the way Lozzi does." Would like to hear from you. art lozzi
ART (Arminio) LOZZI (not verified) | Mon, 10/17/2005 - 00:00 | Permalink
sir, which was your starting point to start making cartons. i mean when you started making cartoon animation series and what was your first job ofered to you. and how you reached on this position please tell me about you from start.
saurabh kashyap (not verified) | Thu, 05/26/2005 - 00:00 | Permalink
While Kricfalusi has a well rehearsed sense of animation history, his choices for best cartoons and his own "creative" content illustrate his obsessions with issues of race, gender, and sexual orientation. Coal Black, and other films of that ilk, clearly speak of societal values held in a past gone era, values which American society should not be proud of; values which devalue non-whites and non-males. While he speaks of valuing change, his films do not reflect that value. Kricfalusi, in my opinion, is emotionally reacting, via his medium, to postmodernism, to racial tolerance and integration, to gender equality, and to choice in sexual orientation. His "agenda" however, backfires. A screening of "Boo Boo Runs Wild" at the UCLA School of Theater, Film and Digital Media in 1999 for graduate students elicited comments such a "There is so much gay tension in that film", and "He MUST be a closet homosexual". While I ardently defend his right to say it, I do not agree with his evaluation of how the world is, or how it should be. I cringe at the thought of him making "educational films" in a medium that is traditionally perceived of as targeting children as an audience, and I abhor his attitude (arrogance?) about knowing what is "true, good and right", when in actuality, he might not know any of those things. Don't misunderstand me, Kricfausi is an amazing draftsman and his sense of timing is second to none. I learned a great deal about animation timing when I worked for him, but my year at his studio was one of the most conflict laden and tense years in my life. I learned nothing about how to become a "better person" as a result of our interactions. But then, that just says something about my own values, and I should have know that before I took the job.
Fred Cabella (not verified) | Wed, 11/03/2004 - 01:00 | Permalink
I would love to see this in Australia. Any chance? I saw John Kricfalusi when he came to Sydney to present a showing of "Man's Best Friend" and some other 'Ren and Stimpy' cartoons at the Museum of Contemporary Art. The place was packed!
Steven Cateris (not verified) | Sat, 10/23/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink
I love the work and the show rocks
drew kingsley (not verified) | Wed, 09/29/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink
I have a question. What are you asking exactly, or more to the point--suggesting? "Why do show new Ren & Stimpy cartoons?" That doesn't make any sense in more than one way. Try asking that question again with a little more thought. But if what you're implying is what I am understanding, Ren Stimpy were epic--and always will be. You may have your own opinion, it's a free country (for the most part). But if the Simpsons had only do one show, it tragedy would be. Now, see if can you guess what I'm implying or more to the point--asking.
Ryan Richmond (not verified) | Mon, 09/27/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink
John K. & Spumco Artists in person at Petition signing party Sat Sept. 11 John Kricfalusi (K.), and his cohorts from Spumco will be appearing in person Sat. Sept. 11 at 3PM at Golden Apple (7711 Melrose Ave.) to host a “Petition Signing Party”. John is trying to convince the powers that be at Spike TV to authorize new episodes of the “Ren and Stimpy Adult Party Cartoon”. The “Party” will include autographs, free mini-posters commemorating the event and declaring the petition signors “undying love and devotion” to Ren & Stimpy, screening of unaired and preview episodes, lively and rabble rousin’ Q&A, self aggrandizing speeches and surprise guests. For more information, go to: http://www.goldenapplecomics.com/upcoming.html Contact: Bill Liebowitz, Golden Apple (323) 658-6047
Bill Liebowitz (not verified) | Mon, 09/06/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink
I have a question. Why do show new Ren & Stimpy cartoons?
Kylie Paton (not verified) | Fri, 09/03/2004 - 00:00 | Permalink

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